<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body dir="auto">
Vancouver has a nice automated metro IMO<br>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Sep 8, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Jochen Fromm <jofr@cas-group.net> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="auto">Driverless cars are difficult, as Elon has experienced. Driverless trains are easier. I believe EU and US should invest in public transport. Sydney has a driverless Metro like Copenhagen as well. But New York, Chicago, Paris or Berlin do not.</div>
<div dir="auto">https://youtu.be/7mtULC7UcSE</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">-J.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000">
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Marcus Daniels <marcus@snoutfarm.com> </div>
<div>Date: 9/8/21 21:55 (GMT+01:00) </div>
<div>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Amtrak & driverless trains </div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal">Check out Tesla AI day</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0z4FweCy4M">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0z4FweCy4M</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Jochen Fromm<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 8, 2021 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Amtrak & driverless trains</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Amtrak is the national railroad in the US ? President Joe Biden has been a frequent user of Amtrak trains</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/amtrak-joe-brief-history-of-bidens-history-americas-railroad-2021-4">https://www.businessinsider.com/amtrak-joe-brief-history-of-bidens-history-americas-railroad-2021-4</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">We have an island at the North Sea where we go every year on vacation. It is about 500 km (310 miles) from Berlin. Usually we go by train, but this year the train drivers are on strike so we took a car instead. I believe in the near future
train drivers will be obsolete anyway, because driverless trains are the future. Years ago I have seen self-checkout systems in supermarkets in London, and now they appear everywhere in Berlin, replacing salesmen. I believe it will be similar for driverless
trains. I have seen impressive driverless trains in Copenhagen, Denmark, but not yet in Berlin</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.equaltimes.org/driverless-trains-are-coming-but?lang=en">https://www.equaltimes.org/driverless-trains-are-coming-but?lang=en</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-J.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-------- Original message --------</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From: Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>>
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date: 9/7/21 22:36 (GMT+01:00) </span>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">
friam@redfish.com</a> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick has gone dark
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<p>Mary and I are reading a biography of HD Thoreau and I feel like I have a better bead on who the heck NST is from getting a slightly better bead on that aspect of small town New England's history/perspective. Neither of us have spent more than glancing
careens through New England population centers in our lives.</p>
<p>We were on our way to visit a friend on the coast of Maine with an intention of crashing Nick's front porch party on the way by, for some egg-salad sandwiches when Mary's back went sideways. We've been doing urgent care/medical imaging/accupuncture/physical
therapy instead. She's recovering well and may likely avoid surgery.</p>
<p>It is just as well with COVID spiking again... we were planning an Amtrak run supplemented by a rental car and might have been able to avoid the worst of the gambit ( not so much our own risk, but the risk of stirring pots best left under-stirred and becoming
vectors ourselves ). </p>
<p>I read that Amtrak style travel clocks in at 1/2 the carbon footprint of air-travel... I'm surprised it is not better. In either case, it doesn't fit well into my aspiration of joining (spiritually) the
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000-watt_society">2000 Watt Society</a>. The more formidable target of a 500W Society (to achieve a carbon-neutral humanity with lots of assumptions) doesn't likely leave any room for long-distance travel unless it
is roughly by-foot (bring back the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_pioneers#Travel_conditions">
Mormon Handcart</a>?) Maybe DaveW can get a friend to haul him into his favorite hot-spring that way without the noise and erosion and fumes of an ATV?</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 9/7/21 2:14 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">My domain has expired this week too and my email account stopped to work, but I was able to renew it. Hope you are online again soon!</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-J.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-------- Original message --------</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From: Nicholas Thompson <a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">
<thompnickson2@gmail.com></a> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date: 9/7/21 19:46 (GMT+01:00) </span>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"><friam@redfish.com></a> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Subject: [FRIAM] Nick has gone dark
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I fried my network adapter, so I will have no network connectivity at least until friday. Possibly, longer if it turns out to be a software problem. Didn't want anybody to think I didn't love them. If you need to talk, best to call me
at 413-477-6602. God knows I don't have anything else to do. </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nick </p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
</p>
<pre>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .</pre>
<pre>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv</pre>
<pre>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam</pre>
<pre>un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a></pre>
<pre>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a></pre>
<pre>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a></pre>
</blockquote>
</div>
<span>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .</span><br>
<span>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv</span><br>
<span>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam</span><br>
<span>un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</span><br>
<span>FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</span><br>
<span>archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</span><br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>