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<p class="MsoNormal">Puppies are adorable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Frank Wimberly<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Down's babies are adorable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Frank C. Wimberly<br>
140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>
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505 670-9918<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 3:32 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter!<br>
(Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.)<br>
<br>
Selection is already occurring, so it isn't as if this is some sci-fi thing.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/" target="_blank">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/</a><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of David Eric Smith<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM<br>
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur<br>
<br>
Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of published authors in the world. I had assumed it was the weather….<br>
<br>
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> That can be screened as well with a large population-wide survey such has been done in the UK or Iceland.<br>
> Of course, it is unlikely that complex behaviors will be governed by isolated mutations, so the task is to look for highly predictive motifs (e.g. regular expressions).
<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$<br>
> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:12 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur<br>
> <br>
> Ha! Now you're trolling. The answer is: "because the sites that generate reading ability (or whatever) *also* generate other 'abilities'", with "abilities" in scare quotes because many abilities are considered bad ... like the ability of a pimply faced white
dude to shoot up a church or blow up a federal building.<br>
> <br>
> In addition to polyphenism, there's robustness. If more than 1 site generates the same functional ability (reading), then do we write them all? ... just one of them? ... a probabilistically predictive handful of them?<br>
> <br>
> On 9/9/21 10:00 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
>> So find the sites that correspond to reading ability, or whatever, and WRITE them.
<br>
>> <br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$<br>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:51 AM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur<br>
>> <br>
>> I was alerted to this article this morning:<br>
>> <br>
>> Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters?<br>
>> <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-con" target="_blank">
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-con</a><br>
>> v<br>
>> inced-that-genetics-matters<br>
>> <br>
>> It should delight those amongst us who rant about the "woke". 8^D But it dovetails nicely with the fraught concept of equality in the other thread.<br>
>> <br>
>> Coincidentally, also on 9/6, the BIAPT announced their early career prize winner Emily McTernan:<br>
>> <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.associationfo" target="_blank">
https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.associationfo</a><br>
>> <a href="http://rpoliticalthought.ac.uk" target="_blank">rpoliticalthought.ac.uk</a>%2fbiapt-2021-early-care&c=E,1,Je9MVNdO8lpJQOd<br>
>> 6fZwUNe-4z5yuFq0upxNIzMBFjmLFh_h5a63ueVVpd8lkEdWeUx5Xx1RaoPg3T5Ph8YlG<br>
>> 0558qqHLZD8-DKeBPEC3YYM,&typo=1<br>
>> er-prize-winner-dr-emily-mcternan/<br>
>> <br>
>> "In her forthcoming monograph, Dr McTernan develops her work on social equality further, to advance a pioneering conceptual account – and robust normative defence – of the phenomenon of ‘taking offence’. Therein, McTernan contends, we should understand taking
offence, under appropriate conditions, as a civic virtue rather than a vice, as an emotion that embodies the resistance of social inequalities within a community."<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On 9/8/21 8:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
>>> From about a cancer rate of 10% (without mutation) to 50% (with) but it depends on the BRCA variant.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_ca" target="_blank">
https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_ca</a><br>
>>> n<br>
>>> c<br>
>>> er.htm<br>
>>> <<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_c" target="_blank">https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_c</a><br>
>>> a<br>
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>>> cer.htm><br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On Sep 8, 2021, at 4:07 PM, Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Is the Braca gene that little correlated with breast cancer?<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ---<br>
>>>> Frank C. Wimberly<br>
>>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,<br>
>>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> 505 670-9918<br>
>>>> Santa Fe, NM<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 4:57 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Yeah, it is hard to get excited about “unusual” variance. Modern <br>
>>>> classification algorithms like gradient boosting make it possible <br>
>>>> to predict phenotypes, and to me that is a lot more interesting <br>
>>>> (and still possible to deconstruct).____<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> __ __<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> *From:* Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>> *On Behalf Of *Eric Charles<br>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:53 PM<br>
>>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>>><br>
>>>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] gen'fur____<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> __ __<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Gen'fur this, gen'fur that... and also the realities of biological complexity....
<br>
>>>> ____<br>
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