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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Well, Steve,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Again I ask, What exactly are you seeking. And why are you seeking THAT? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Just TO head off the usual, this is NOT for me a kinky question but a very abstract one. And, to be honest, it is a bit rhetorical; ie. I already have the arrogance to think that I know the answer. I think there is a sense in which the search is the “goal”, and if you provide the goal, without a search, you will obliterate it. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Occasionally, when I try to raise an issue on FRIAM I get dragged into kink as a kind of raillery, and I think, distraction. The best example was Doug who completely short-sheeted my attempt to discuss vortexes and entropy by talking about “Swirlies” (NOT Shirleys, to be clear). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Let’s take an example that cannot be kinkified. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Let’s take, Getting the Giggles. The Giggles is, for me, one of the holiest states one can achieve. I know also that it can be produced when a group of people, familiar and comfortable with one another, happen on a bit of silliness together. I know also that it can be produced by smoking pot. So, why bother with the people and the silliness. Why not just take the drug? To which my answer is, <b><i>Why</i></b> take the drug? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nick <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nick Thompson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Smith<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 16, 2021 2:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> friam@redfish.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Marcus wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Why did the big bang occur? Was it because God had an orgasm? Jesus.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p>The unfolding universe *is* the orgasm?<o:p></o:p></p><p> ... induced by the meta-Goddess-as-Dominatrix wielding Dark-Energy-Stim?<o:p></o:p></p><p>I *was* aware of the sex-application, though I would question Dave's 10,000x purchases compared to medical relief/rehab and performance enhancement. When shopping for the (ultimately $30 device) i tripped over the whole range of applications including a wide range of sexual kink it would seem.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I believe electrostim has been used by horse (and maybe more importantly cattle) breeding for many decades to collect semen for the turkey-baster work (to be crude)? I hate to guess what the scene looked liked *developing* this technology... I think that kind of behaviour would be illegal in most states today.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The closest I came to "biting" on that application was the conductive gloves designed to morph amongst traditional electro-stim/massage/accupuncture... but most of the "unique" electrode types cost many times the stim unit itself (I suspect it is just a compact CPU with some D/A converters... probably running Linux... there are probably DIY Arduino builds or even amplifier circuits to drive these electrodes from the headphone output of a smartphone. For my more general interests in synthetic sensoria, I should check the options of what can in fact be driven from the headphone jack in consumer HMDs (e.g. Oculus Quest). <o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>