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<p class="MsoNormal">The other side is welcome to describe how their magic works, but there\u2019s no urgency in listening to them until they do.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>thompnickson2@gmail.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 19, 2021 7:12 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You\u2019re what we experience-monists call a \u201cstuff-monist\u201d All monists are the same, basically. No matter what color you paint the ford-150 it\u2019s still a ford 150.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 18, 2021 6:17 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, stuff. But what kind of stuff are we? While physics tries to examine the most fundamental stuff and elementary particles, psychology has the most interesting types of stuff, if "personality" is the stuff that personal characters are
made of. There are countless individual and path-dependent differences in characteristic patterns of thinking, feeling and behaving as a person. Then there is the whole subject of consciousness and subjective experience which is interesting too, if we consider
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From: Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date: 9/18/21 22:57 (GMT+01:00) <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are just stuff and stuff can be simulated.. on quantum computers if necessary.<br>
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> On Sep 18, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I have watched John Searle videos on YouTube today and stumbled upon the question of personality again. If we assume that there is a special substance that makes us a person, can an advanced robot or AI acquire it? Can a robot be lazy, diligent, dull, intelligent,
friendly, nit-picky or even creative? John Searle would probably say it is not a good question...<br>
> <a href="https://youtu.be/Bq2bfSzkTfU">https://youtu.be/Bq2bfSzkTfU</a><br>
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> I would say the answer is yes, because if the special substance is simply the personality or persistent character of a person, there is no reason why a robot should not be able to learn a bundle of typical behavior patterns (i.e. special mappings between
perceptions and actions) that are characteristic for a person, even if this behavior is implemented totally differently. The resulting personality helps to define and maintain the identity of a person<br>
> <a href="https://youtu.be/WwipmspceOU">https://youtu.be/WwipmspceOU</a><br>
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> What do you think? Is there a special substance that makes us a person, and can an advanced robot or AI acquire it?<br>
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> -J.<br>
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