<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">These discussions often remind me of Blegvad's Leviathan:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><a href="http://www.leviathan.co.uk/science/science01.html">http://www.leviathan.co.uk/science/science01.html</a><br></div></div>