<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">“We later civilizations, we too know we are vulnerable.” Valery abut 1900<div><br></div><div>I’ve been reading Toynbee, clear, fun to read, , helful on the decline and response of civilizations. He chunks civilizations in a not quite accurate but very suggestive ways.</div><div><br></div><div>If Sorokin is right, we are in for a good time as we move fom a materialist to a more spiritualpychlogical age. Digitalization dematerializes mind.<br><br><div dir="ltr"><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 31, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Jochen Fromm <jofr@cas-group.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div dir="auto">If there would be a list of writers, thinkers and scientists who are not getting the public recognition they deserve, who would you put on top of that list? Ernest Becker? Pitirim Sorokin? Paul Valery?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">“My soul is nothing now but the dream dreamt by matter struggling with itself!” <br>~ Paul Valéry</div><div dir="auto"><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">"Becker came to believe that individual character is essentially formed around the process of denying one's own mortality, that this denial is a necessary component of functioning in the world, and that this character-armor masks and obscures genuine self-knowledge. Much of the evil in the world, he believed, was a consequence of this need to deny death"</span></div><div dir="auto">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Becker</div><div dir="auto"><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">-J.</span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><span></span><br><span>.-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - .</span><br><span>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv</span><br><span>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam</span><br><span>un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</span><br><span>FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</span><br><span>archives:</span><br><span> 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/</span><br><span> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/</span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>