<div dir="auto">The Shaw who is quoted there's Mary Shaw, a very accomplished computer scientist. She and I went flying together once. She is a avid pilot. Maybe I should say was. She's older than I am and insurance companies make it difficult after 70.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 11:31 AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I did not know Pamela well, having only met her in person once or
twice. We did have a number of very gracious/generous off-list
exchanges after Joe died. I am always intrigued by anyone who
bothers to engage with the harder/tech world from a humanist point
of view. <br>
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<p>I didn't know Joe at all, but in listening to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Iv-T-RqDfc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">a panel
discussion</a> with Pamela a couple of years ago, she attributed
the "Reasonable Person Principle" to Joe, or at least to him
having shepherded it well while CS chair at CMU. On a good day,
it feels as if FriAM tries to approach this. <span style="color:rgb(39,39,39);font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(251,251,251);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"><br>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(39,39,39);font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(251,251,251);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">From <a href="https://csd.cmu.edu/news/memoriam-joseph-f-traub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Joe's
Memorium at CMU</a></span><span style="color:rgb(39,39,39);font-family:"Open Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(251,251,251);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"><br>
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<p><span>"I have always admired Joe's
leadership style, which was strongly rooted in the Reasonable
Person Principle," said Shaw, the Alan J. Perlis University
Professor of Computer Science and a National Medal of
Technology and Innovation recipient. "He made decisions by
building consensus, sometimes by public meetings preceded by
position papers, sometimes by walking around and talking to
people. He rarely, if ever, was the main public advocate for a
position, but he rather shepherded the discussion to a
reasonable outcome."</span></p>
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<p><span>I had
forgotten that Pamela published a memoir and announcing that was
(best I can tell) her last contribution to this list just over 2
years ago...<br>
</span></p>
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<a href="https://press.etc.cmu.edu/index.php/product/this-could-be-important/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://press.etc.cmu.edu/index.php/product/this-could-be-important/</a></span></p>
<p><span>Mary has
read a lot of memoirs with me in the last 4-5 years... Pamela's
now goes on our list. I only wish I'd bothered when she
announced it.</span></p>
<p><span>- Steve<br>
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<div>On 11/5/21 4:02 AM, Merle Lefkoff
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thank you Marcus and
Stephen for your remarks. Pamela and Joe were good friends,
and she was a mentor for me as I struggled to enter the new
world of complex systems. We met when Pamela interviewed me
for her book "The Futures for Women" which, not surprisingly,
you won't see mentioned among her many contributions (some
things never change).</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 3:02 AM
Stephen Guerin <<a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">We were fortunate to have Pamela among us. Take
some time and search the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_McCorduck" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">interwebs on Pamela</a>.
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pamela+mccorduck&i=digital-text&ref=nb_sb_noss_2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Order her books</a>
and <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=pamela+mccorduck&rlz=1CAOTWH_enUS880&sxsrf=AOaemvIiN1Cz-TSMhP2g1fOUSNsTjPIDlw:1636080887613&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiDs4ShnID0AhXyh_0HHapQB54Q_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1200&bih=649&dpr=2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">watch her
interviews</a>. Pamela witnessed the birth and the growth
of AI and danced and sparred with the great luminaries (Herb
Simon, Ed Feigenbaum, her husband Joe Traub, Raj Reddy, etc)
- She was a humanist that interpreted the field and created
bridges for Snow's Two Cultures. She was an equal among the
masters.<br>
<br>
She reminded me of my favorite aunts, one that humored
explorations but let you know you still had no idea what
you're talking about. I always valued her perspective and
was honored she was watching and
occasionally participating. <br>
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Pamela was one of the great ones.
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<div dir="auto">I'm so sorry about that. I just reviewed
the many emails Pam and I exchanged over the years.<br>
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Frank C. Wimberly<br>
140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>
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