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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Good to hear from you, Jackie. A fresh voice on the list. Always welcome. Sometimes we regulars bore ourselves to death. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We decided not to meet with the extended family in Houston, a hard decision that I instantly stopped regretting when I saw the new numbers. The only question in my mind is whether we avoid my son’s family for a week or two when they return. People keep telling me about vaccinated people they know who have croaked and I am definitely in the vulnerable group … age, diabetes, heart disease --. There are some folks on this list who are very good at numbers and have vulnerabilities of their own. I am guessing we will hear from them in time. I am guessing that unless I am planning to stay in my house for the rest of my life, I should probably not worry about it too much. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for your message. Don’t be a stranger. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nick Thompson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jacqueline Kazil<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 19, 2021 11:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Has anybody been lookiung at covid numbers<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi! Jackie here. Nick, I too can get hysterical about Covid. I left DC for Missouri and lived on a dead-end street in the country with my in-laws for almost a year sharing a bedroom with my three year old and newborn. Then my mom was in an intensive care situation after an accident - for 52 days. This was in Florida during the summer surge -- at one point covid positivity rate was > 25% in the county she was in. I couldn't leave Florida, because my baby's daycare in DC has a covid policy that you had to quarantine if your house was exposed to a covid positivity rate of >10% & my moms hospital had a policy that said you had to quarantine if you leave the state of Florida, you had a to quarantine (I didn't understand this one. This was a policy for the sake of having a policy. All other states were better places to be). With these two policies in play, despite not seeing my children for more than a month and having to quit breastfeeding, I decided not to travel home... and sometimes life sucks. [As I write this, I feel like this is a simulation in the works.] <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In Florida during the time with my mom, I was pushed outside of my comfort zone. I was in an environment where a lot of the population feels differently than I do about safety. I also was walking into hospitals with covid patients where vaccinated nurses were dropping like flies. I gave up a little, because of the stress I only had so much energy to worry about covid. A friend even convinced me to eat in a restaurant indoors -- barely, once. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>I just looked up Santa Fe county, and it is just over 10% covid positivity rate. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://covidactnow.org/us/new_mexico-nm/county/santa_fe_county/?s=25691480">https://covidactnow.org/us/new_mexico-nm/county/santa_fe_county/?s=25691480</a><br><br>Covid positivity rate is supposed to be a signal of knowledge spreading. I would say over 10% right before Thanksgiving is probably a not a good place to be. This means it is spreading and people know, but some don't. With families getting together -- the "some don't" part is not good. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>With my experience of being in various environments, I would say that if I were in a place with a rate of 10% or higher, I would worry enough to batten down the hatches for the holidays, because... sometimes life sucks. I would limit the number of people I interacted with. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Also to consider in this equation -- how many people already had covid that already counted in the vaccine numbers. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>