<div dir="auto">Off the diagonal, right?<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Nick, what's the difference between an epiphenomenon and a side effect? Naively asked.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 4:39 PM ⛧ glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Right, high dimension. More important than the matrix being large is that it has non-zero cross terms.<br>
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On November 28, 2021 8:42:37 AM PST, Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>The operators are large (in the sense of a matrix) whether or not they are intended to be?<br>
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>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:20 AM, ⛧ glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Any of the evolutionary operators across scales, from energy exchange at the finest to ecosystem reengineering at the coarsest.<br>
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>>> On November 27, 2021 7:33:15 AM PST, Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> I’ve heard these words from you Glen, but I have no idea what these loops are or what you might be talking about.<br>
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