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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>So, what does a healthy 2040 community look like. What are we working TOWARD, here. Once of the things that the Mcnamee podcast highlighted for me was my feeling that, in a chaotic world, people like me, <i>planners, </i>are just out of tune with the world. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>By the way, I think “surfing the web” , as it has been used, is a terrible metaphor. What most of us do is like water skiing the web. Bouncing over the wake, never actually getting into the water. Gives surfing a bad name. A surfer finds the few survivable paths through an immense concentration of hostile forces. Surfing is more like martial arts. In fact we must begin to surf the web. To realize the manners in which its hostile forces constrain us and find the few paths that allow us to master those forces and come out of the curl safely. We thought it was a playground; now we see it’s a minefield. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>n<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nick Thompson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Daniels<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 2, 2022 2:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Roger Mcnamee !!??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Nick writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>< </span><span style='color:#201F1E'>Imagined a world in which we all worked at home, everything was on zoom, and everything was delivered by Amazon by drone. I realize this is a reductio, but hum along with me for a few bars. There would be no intermediate social landscape between the home and the distribution center. No intermediate human scales. </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'>I can’t say immediately why this would be a bad thing, but my gut doesn’t like it.><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'>I can't think of many examples where the intermediate scales are anything but wasteful or intrusive. Maybe to see a tailor coupled to the purchase of certain clothes? I still drive to services (dentist, doctor, hair stylist), just not to redistributors, because they don't really add anything. There's still a farmer's market that seems as popular as ever -- but they DO offer something unique. I can drive five minutes to Home Depot but honestly half the time their inventory is exhausted for what I want, and I end up ordering it online. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'>Marcus <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of <a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 2, 2022 1:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Roger Mcnamee !!??</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal>Marcus, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>I would like to be convinced …. But<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Imagined a world in which we all worked at home, everything was on zoom, and everything was delivered by Amazon by drone. I realize this is a reductio, but hum along with me for a few bars. There would be no intermediate social landscape between the home and the distribution center. No intermediate human scales. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>I can’t say immediately why this would be a bad thing, but my gut doesn’t like it. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Nick <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xmsonormal>Nick Thompson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xmsonormal><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Daniels<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 2, 2022 1:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Roger Mcnamee !!??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I can see living without Facebook (I do), but why can't we live with Amazon? It seems like they did a pretty good job of displacing the likes of Walmart. It could happen again. What added inherent value do stores have, other than as a mechanism to prevent he consolidation of market influence w.r.t. to prices?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of <a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [FRIAM] Roger Mcnamee !!??</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xxmsonormal>I just listened to this podcast <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><a href="https://feeds.megaphone.fm/VMP5489734702">https://feeds.megaphone.fm/VMP5489734702</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>a conversation between the former prosecutor, Joyce Vance, and the musician, financier, turncoat Facebook investor Roger Mcnamee, who likens this moment with big tech to the moment before the food industry regulations of the early 1900’s and anti-pollution legislation of the 60’s, moments when Da People reasserted control over over-weening industry interests. He is author of the book, <i>Zucked</i>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>An hour-long pod cast is a terribly inefficient way to learn about something, so I hope that one you, for whom none of this is news, can offer a more condensed source.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>We are basically talking about the Amazon paradox, here: can’t live with it; can’t live without it. How much ARE we willing to pay to have the trains run on time?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>As usual, I am in need of instruction. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>Nick Thompson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>