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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 7, 2022 1:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index</font>
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On 1/7/22 11:14 AM, glen wrote:<br>
> Thanks for that validation. I think SteveS' conception is rooted in <br>
> the US' typical puritanical approach to everything. I admit I'm <br>
> ignorant of the history of HR. But my sense is that non-US regions <br>
> have a richer cultural approach to handling drugs. Even China, which <br>
> we often ridicule as totalitarian, has lived with opium use for a much <br>
> longer time.<br>
><br>
> Here in the US, the puritans will steal any and every thing and warp <br>
> it to their narrative, including HR. I think SteveS is a victim of <br>
> that narrative.<br>
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I heard your conception as one of your own proverbial "Just So" stories, <br>
and recognize my own experience of *other's* conceptions (from whom I <br>
first encountered HR) as a complementary "Just So! Oh No!" story. <br>
Wishful/Wistful thinking vs negative Paranoiac thinking perhaps. I <br>
feel that my own apprehension is pretty muddled in the middle. I'm not <br>
busy worrying that drug users (legal or illegal, prescribed or <br>
self-medicating) will be harmed by that behaviour... It is mostly <br>
outside of my concern (except when I might be consulting with someone <br>
trying to distill their own spirits). Clearly there are lots of people <br>
who seek chemical alteration and seek a society that elaborately helps <br>
them explore that to the extreme whilst there is another (bimodal?) <br>
faction (prohibitionists/puritans) which seeks to quash all of that <br>
behaviour. I'm muddled in the middle, enjoying having friends who are <br>
much more experimental in those domains than I ever will be while also <br>
wincing at some of the self/other harm that seems to go with (at least <br>
the) illegal substances/activities as well as wincing at all the <br>
puritanical need to decide for others what their goals in life and risk <br>
envelopes while pursuing them should be.<br>
<br>
I am a mild victim of many narratives I suppose.<br>
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- SteveS<br>
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