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Particularly impressive (or confusing) to me are people that can find a boundary on their paid work to pursue random scholarly things. (Scholarly in the way Glen describes it.) For me it<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> always
kind of makes sense to relinquish all other things in pursuit of the paid work. That mercenary aspect of the corporate or startup culture kind of suppresses independent thought. One place I interviewed at asked how I felt about walking around the office.
I didn't understand why he would ask that. I said something like "Sure, to clear your head." But it was the wrong answer. The owner was apparently lurking around the building to see who was busy and who was screwing around. They wanted to select against
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glen wrote:<br>
> The non-disjoint distinction between scholar and academic is useful <br>
> for me. I'm neither. And watching my scholarly and academic friends do <br>
> their jobs can be fascinating. The academics spend a huge amount of <br>
> time raising funds, writing proposals, playing psychologist with <br>
> colleagues, etc. ... everything one does in other bureaucracies like <br>
> corporations and what I imagine the national labs are like. The <br>
> scholars spend the majority of their time pushing pencils, but in the <br>
> service of deeper patterns they (think they) see. One scholar who <br>
> happened to be a colleague at a dot-com I worked at studied ancient <br>
> texts and artifacts. At work, he was a typical IT guy. But at home, he <br>
> was driven by cataloguing things. A guy I met the other day is a <br>
> cryptozoologist who is driven by taxonomies of mythological beasts <br>
> like bigfoot. I guess I'm more bedazzled by scholars than academics, <br>
> regardless of where they find their home.<br>
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