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<p>I've been dropping notes (poems) in a bottle in the Rio Grande
for decades now... I suppose if I offered them for sale to
down-river folks, that would suffice (even one single annual
sale?)</p>
<p>Cody, wanna buy a poem in a Bulliet Rye bottle? It is up to you
to wait at the banks of the Rio Grande to catch it. Actually you
would need to go paddle-board around Cochiti lake to find it I
suppose.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">or commerce and navigability may be accomplished by
a NM Stream Commission contract to continuously survey the
waterway bathymetry with unmanned surface vehicles:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Cody,<br>
<br>
Noticed that issue made international news and was covered
by the Guardian in 2018.<br>
<a
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I suspect you're aware but didn't mention is Federal
doctrine of "Navigable Servitude" that ties navigability
to State Ownership that prevents the riverbed from
converting to private land. </div>
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<li>See:<a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigable_servitude"
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Note from this article the concept of proving
"Susceptibly of Commerce"<br>
" If the river has ever been demonstrably been used
for commerce, then it can readily be found navigable
under federal law. However, many states have also
accepted demonstrations that the waterway is merely
capable of commerce as proof of susceptibility.<br>
<br>
Commerce refers to the ability to transport goods to
or from market, or for sale. Commerce inherently
includes the right of navigation. Commerce and
therefore navigation includes transportation of
timber, as well as transport by barge traffic or
oceangoing ships. Some states have also accepted
evidence of use by a commercial raft company, or kayak
or canoe school as evidence of commercial
navigability.<br>
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If the river was used for transporting goods for sale
prior to statehood, then the river is clearly
navigable by federal definition. As such, the bed and
the bank up to the mean high water mark are owned by
the state and held in trust for the public."</li>
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It would be interesting to have a site to track craft GPS
and imagery to continue to maintain public ownership. The
Realtime.Earth app could be a kind of crowdsourced
RiverView ala Google Street View. I also wonder what would
qualify as craft as navigation. Certainly barges with no
onboard pilots and dragged by mules on the side and
"remote piloting" qualified. I would think a legal
argument could be made drone craft with GPS and
cameras qualify as navigation craft. Also would be safer
given the barbed wire obstacles. <br>
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WRT to establishing commerce, we can set up a Culinary
Mushroom delivery service where supply is put in on the
river (up or downstream as a drone boat can probably
handle it) and customers retrieve the Culinary (or other)
mushrooms somewhere else. Citizens can buy a Crypto Coin
to support the project as well as convert their Coins as
they are backed by mushrooms. As we've talked about at the
office, this could be the worlds first Fungible Currency
and imagery could be sold as Fungible Tokens :-)</div>
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3:22 AM cody dooderson <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Forgive me while I hijack this rant to
append my own political rant?
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<div>Here is some background. I live in New Mexico,
which is a land of very little water. Last year I
got interested in stand up paddle boarding in the
few rivers that annually have enough water to float
on. It is a great way to see wildlife and avoid the
summer heat. New Mexico is lucky enough to have a
state constitution that protects people's rights to
use waterways [1].</div>
<div>Our previous Governor, who was basically a
spokesperson for rich private interests (AKA
Texans), silently made a rule that allowed land
owners (Texans) to put barbed wire across the
rivers. It only takes a few fences to make a river
non navigable by inflatable boat. That rule is
mostly not enforced because it is unconstitutional,
and unfair. It is currently on it's way to the
supreme court. I probably don't need to mention that
the rich landowners have much more money in this
fight than the rafters and fisherman. </div>
<div>In the meantime, our current governor, who is a
Democrat with some arguably dictator-like
tendencies, has started to fire every game
commissioner who refuses to enforce the previously
mentioned unconstitutional rule. There have been 2
so far [2]. I am curious what her motivations are.
Is there such a thing as lobbyist induced Stockholm
syndrome?</div>
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<div>[1] New Mexico Consttution. Article 16
Section 2. <a
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<div>[2] Much more information with links. <a
href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Albuquerque/comments/s3zdrk/governor_removes_another_qualified_commissioner/"
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at 2:08 AM Jochen Fromm <<a
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<div dir="auto">Let me try to view it from a
complexity perspective:<br>
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After the Cold War we thought capitalism has won
and communism lost, but it is not that simple.
Now we see the drawbacks of capitalism too.
Companies in capitalism were forced to reduce
their costs and all the jobs went to China where
most supply chains end now. Nature is exploited
in capitalism globally on a unprecedented scale.
The climate is broken and the world is burning.
The world drowns in waste: plastic waste,
nuclear waste, e-waste, ....<br>
<br>
The system is not only producing trash, it even
sells trash wrapped in lies. Fast food
corporations ruin our health by selling fake
food and paying their workers extremely low
slave wages. They spend a lot of money for ads
and marketing though, but marketing can be
considered as the art of lying. Amazon has
successfully destroyed all bookstores and pays
its workers in fulfillment centers not enough to
make a living. Facebook aka Meta helps to
destroy democracy while Mark Zuckerberg enjoys
his life in his giant estate in Hawaii.<br>
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Gil is right, the world is broken in many ways.
Obviously we need to support our politicians in
understanding the mess and in finding ways to
fix it. Complexity science helps us to study
complex systems on a large scale, to understand
how they work, how they interact and how they
can fail. The SFI in Santa Fe is known worldwide
as a promoter for work in this important area,
even if it might appear as a shabby or boring
building to local residents.</div>
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<div>Date: 1/14/22 05:31 (GMT+01:00) </div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] One of many things the
country is fucked on </div>
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I love you, man. Maybe a little less
gratuitous graphic imagery in the rants. <br>
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Extra points if you can tie the rants to some
kind of Complexity perspective - Not that
that is too common here. :-)</div>
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<div>The maslows are just fucked. Reason
number 99999 out of googolplex.</div>
<div>To save myself a lot of mental wear and
tair. and to save some on gass. I had
hoped I could shop amazon pantry. for at
least some of it.</div>
<div>-a lot of the basics: breakfast
cerials, or bagels aint available for
SNAP,or even at all where I am
geographically speaking. I guess bozo the
the clown doesn't consider santa fe a real
place. Welcome to club ahole.</div>
<div>-Snack stuff is equally hit and mis for
just being available</div>
<div>-same for cleaning sprays and gels</div>
<div>Oh but I can get my cookies and MnMs on
all I want.</div>
<div>The very fact that 500 some odd twats
even consider a weekly alowence er um
sorry "Universal income" as a question. Is
just fucking stupid. If they can't even
get around to, uh ya know fixing the
economy, having universal healthcare and
blah blah. They sure the fuck can get the
havenots like yours truely a god damn
alowence. my SDI from inflation just don't
go all that far. And trumpster types winge
about 'oh being lazy blah blah' .they see
the news, they know, just as well as this
list does. Jobs sucked a fat dick back in
2014 because of slave-wages. they suck
more now because of that, and covid
reasons. Plus fact is not 100% of people
can work if they want to. Just not enough
slots to do that.</div>
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<div>I fail to understand why it is that
with a super fragile ecosystem home
delivery is just a basic. Getting out for
fresh is great. Telling what's left of air
to get reked not so much.</div>
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<div>-Me the one sane dude left.<br>
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