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p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">It has been known for a long time that the most effective means of birth / population control was educating girls, followed closely by empowering girls, e.g., with micro-loans to start businesses. I remember studying this topic way back in the 80s in my anthropology graduate program.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">davew<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div>On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">Merle wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">< <span style="color:#201f1e;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px;">China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are more urban educated workers, especially women.
></span></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><span style="color:#201f1e;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px;"></span></span></span><br></div><div style=""><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="colour" style="color:#201f1e;"><span style=""><span class="size" style="font-size:15px;">Estimate in Hawken's book was the 6th largest potential reduction for CO2 drawdown came from educating girls. His reference was:</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><span style="color:#201f1e;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px;"></span></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><span style="color:#201f1e;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px;"><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1206964" id="qt-LPNoLPOWALinkPreview">https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1206964</a></span></span></span><br></div><div class="qt-_Entity qt-_EType_OWALinkPreview qt-_EId_OWALinkPreview qt-_EReadonly_1"><br></div><div><br></div><div id="qt-appendonsend"><br></div><div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%;"><br></div><div id="qt-divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="colour" style="color:#000000;"><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff@gmail.com><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2022 9:40 PM<br> <b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</span></span> </div><div> <br></div></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="qt-x_gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are more urban educated workers, especially women.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:11 PM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-x_gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div>Excellent, Marcus. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant. Two problems, "God" has tricks for making babies. As for 1 child per couple didn't they "terminate" some babies (not fetuses, feti?), particularly females? My impression is that
their population has grown substantially notwithstanding those policies.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div>Frank<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div dir="auto"><div>---<br></div><div> Frank C. Wimberly<br></div><div> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br></div><div> Santa Fe, NM 87505<br></div><div> <br></div><div> 505 670-9918<br></div><div> Santa Fe, NM<br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 6:38 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-x_gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">Before I launch into a diatribe about why the hell we can't agree to basic, never mind interesting things: I'd just like to report that the James Webb telescope is in L2 orbit. Score one for the negotiating, patient, subtlety-appreciating scientists and
their counterparts in government.<br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">Marcus<br></div><div id="qt-x_gmail-m_1763955135694146404m_-1119016457442818218appendonsend"><br></div><div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%;"><br></div><div id="qt-x_gmail-m_1763955135694146404m_-1119016457442818218divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="colour" style="color:#000000;"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of David Eric Smith <<a href="mailto:desmith@santafe.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">desmith@santafe.edu</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2022 6:01 PM<br> <b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</span></span> </div><div> <br></div></div><div style="overflow-wrap:break-word;"><div>You know, as I read your characterization, Marcus, it took me back to Hannah Arendt’s description of feudal Europe and the role of the Rothschilds and other big Jewish quasi-stateless fixer families
in relation to the feudal lords. Fussy and indirect seems somehow very close to the right picture of the stateless ones navigating always through the cracks and seams, compared to the blunt moves of the ones who had states. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I have some discomfort that this doesn’t quite map. Yet it seems not fully dissimilar.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Eric<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">SFI sponsorship seems like very much a fideistic declaration. It would be interesting to see how that influence network feeds into a D.C. influencer network and real money. There
are some linkages, like Brookings, but leverage-wise it all seems much softer than with LANL and the DOE. And it all seems so fussy and indirect compared to slapping down a few billion dollars to build a Starship. That's the appeal of Musk: I'm f'ing doing
this. <br></div><div id="qt-x_gmail-m_1763955135694146404m_-1119016457442818218x_appendonsend"><br></div><div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%;"><br></div><div id="qt-x_gmail-m_1763955135694146404m_-1119016457442818218x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gepropella@gmail.com</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2022 5:08 PM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a> <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</span> </div><div> <br></div></div><div><span class="size" style="font-size:13px;"><span style=""><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"><div><div>Well, that ain't true, either. Like Epstein, when you "invest" in the SFI or people like Steven Pinker or Bill Clinton, you're simply transferring from one store to another ... buying influence. If, e.g., the CIA contracts with the SFI to adapt a CAS modeling
tool into a broad spectrum simulation tool, they are not only buying a (questionable) piece of software; they're buying *leverage* over people's salaries, loyalty, etc. So those VCs *will* see that money again, perhaps much less of it, depending on the efficiency
of the transaction, or in fringe storage types (able to get past the receptionist after eating over-priced peri-Mexican food in order to have tea with smart people).<br></div><div> <br></div><div> On 1/24/22 15:31, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br></div><div> > Some of them sponsor SFI for goodness' sake! They'll never see THAT money again!<br></div><div> -- <br></div><div> glen<br></div><div> Theorem 3. 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