<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Weird, and interesting.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In the first page, where they comment that they are culturing biopsied cells to large scale, my immediate thought was “those cells have to be immortalized”, which they say a page later.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">At least in much of cell culture research (all of it?), the only cells that make it to immortalization are the ones that go aneuploid, which is a kind of escape from regulatory mechanisms that is important to metastasis in at least many cancers (true in all of them? I don’t know. Peter Duesberg says so, but that doesn’t necessarily count). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Since everything is supposed to be chewed up digestively anyway, I don’t suppose it should matter whether a cell culture line used for food is aneuploid or not. I find it interesting if it does not change cell-cell binding in a way that would be important for something to seem like “meat”. But I haven’t read about the processing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I wonder how much there is to study on this over the longer term.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Eric</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" class="">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fgoodmeat.co%2fprocess&c=E,1,cc0UXzpHcpIUldST355NTueKAubejYej9Tu6TDfu6RseJmyf7nn4ySPH4GtWuEXr88Bgac-rqS0Pgu5skqVLkiI9JGT_YHnyEpJf4Ljes2Ub9uejiEiFvQbB&typo=1" id="LPNoLPOWALinkPreview" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; 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font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" class="">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" class="">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:25 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" class="">friam@redfish.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" class="">friam@redfish.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</font><div class=""> </div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/25/22 8:48 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Boneless chicken breasts come from roosters?<br class=""></div></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Top hit on my google... not sure if US is very different from AU:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><a class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.chicken.org.au%2fare-meat-chickens-male-or-female%2f&c=E,1,6tdQm63rq7rDN78Plgud3DPEE_wHdAozmZGjHyFXpXDW1NKIF-VKqJz3AretO-kYe8AQyLgxU_GE5E_8F6DScWMlmDAC9ZRrCv_GYGu1YTr-n53vMSGQVxd-L2c,&typo=1">https://www.chicken.org.au/are-meat-chickens-male-or-female/</a></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">---<br class="">Frank C. Wimberly<br class="">140 Calle Ojo Feliz,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Santa Fe, NM 87505<br class=""><br class="">505 670-9918<br class="">Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br class=""><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">We neuter many/most male pets and beasts of burden, slaughter many of them young (e.g. this is where most of our beef and chicken come from).</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">We do this for various reasons that are not entirely unrelated to the larger conversation here...<br class=""></div><div class="">On 1/25/22 7:35 AM, David Eric Smith wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class="">Never too late, Merle.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:32 AM, Merle Lefkoff <<a href="mailto:merlelefkoff@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">merlelefkoff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;">Yes, they should have drowned the boys.</div></div><br class=""><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 7:27 AM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto" class="">But<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_China#20th_century" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_China#20th_century</a><br class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""><div dir="auto" class="">---<br class="">Frank C. Wimberly<br class="">140 Calle Ojo Feliz,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Santa Fe, NM 87505<br class=""><br class="">505 670-9918<br class="">Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 7:16 AM Merle Lefkoff <<a href="mailto:merlelefkoff@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">merlelefkoff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;">Dave is right. Development experts have known for a long time that when girls get educated and women hold jobs outside the home they are much more likely to control childbearing. However, the culture must change everywhere, and it happens quite slowly with lots of pushback. Check out the new protest and direct action movement that's happening with young men demonstrating in the streets in S. Korea. ("A Vicious Anti-Feminist Backlash Stuns South Korea", Globe And Mail, 1/22.)</div><br class=""><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:40 AM Prof David West <<a href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Arial;" class="">It has been known for a long time that the most effective means of birth / population control was educating girls, followed closely by empowering girls, e.g., with micro-loans to start businesses. I remember studying this topic way back in the 80s in my anthropology graduate program.<br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial;" class="">davew<br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" id="x_m_2336448409393021354gmail-m_2825797194520838301m_-2063921091106213134m_-8945311292304768704m_-3508530760903268397gmail-m_2827969099721220955qt" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Merle wrote:<br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">< <span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline;" class=""><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 15px;" class="">China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are more urban educated workers, especially women. ></span></span></span><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline;" class=""><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 15px;" class=""></span></span></span><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30);" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-size: 15px;" class="">Estimate in Hawken's book was the 6th largest potential reduction for CO2 drawdown came from educating girls. His reference was:</span></span></span></span><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline;" class=""><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 15px;" class=""></span></span></span><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline;" class=""><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 15px;" class=""><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.science.org%2fdoi%2f10.1126%2fscience.1206964&c=E,1,dhZqId6BmX_lZAkiZ4KqytELCYK4cwA4xLz977cmeLfMrTYrhP3BmklQPOLEU4fwWN1lRQM2UxbXsMWAXVEDer4Yykb7kz6tIFR9uWjkYw,,&typo=1" id="x_m_2336448409393021354gmail-m_2825797194520838301m_-2063921091106213134m_-8945311292304768704m_-3508530760903268397gmail-m_2827969099721220955qt-LPNoLPOWALinkPreview" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1206964</a></span></span></span><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div id="x_m_2336448409393021354gmail-m_2825797194520838301m_-2063921091106213134m_-8945311292304768704m_-3508530760903268397gmail-m_2827969099721220955qt-appendonsend" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 726.046875px;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div id="x_m_2336448409393021354gmail-m_2825797194520838301m_-2063921091106213134m_-8945311292304768704m_-3508530760903268397gmail-m_2827969099721220955qt-divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <<a href="mailto:merlelefkoff@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">merlelefkoff@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 24, 2022 9:40 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</span></span></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;" class="">China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are more urban educated workers, especially women.<br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:11 PM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Excellent, Marcus.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant. Two problems, "God" has tricks for making babies. As for 1 child per couple didn't they "terminate" some babies (not fetuses, feti?), particularly females? My impression is that their population has grown substantially notwithstanding those policies.<br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Frank<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">---<br class=""></div><div class="">Frank C. Wimberly<br class=""></div><div class="">140 Calle Ojo Feliz,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div class="">Santa Fe, NM 87505<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">505 670-9918<br class=""></div><div class="">Santa Fe, NM<br class=""></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 6:38 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Before I launch into a diatribe about why the hell we can't agree to basic, never mind interesting things: I'd just like to report that the James Webb telescope is in L2 orbit. Score one for the negotiating, patient, subtlety-appreciating scientists and their counterparts in government.<br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Marcus<br class=""></div><div id="x_m_2336448409393021354gmail-m_2825797194520838301m_-2063921091106213134m_-8945311292304768704m_-3508530760903268397gmail-m_2827969099721220955qt-x_gmail-m_1763955135694146404m_-1119016457442818218appendonsend" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 701.984375px;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div id="x_m_2336448409393021354gmail-m_2825797194520838301m_-2063921091106213134m_-8945311292304768704m_-3508530760903268397gmail-m_2827969099721220955qt-x_gmail-m_1763955135694146404m_-1119016457442818218divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of David Eric Smith <<a href="mailto:desmith@santafe.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">desmith@santafe.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 24, 2022 6:01 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</span></span></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class="">You know, as I read your characterization, Marcus, it took me back to Hannah Arendt’s description of feudal Europe and the role of the Rothschilds and other big Jewish quasi-stateless fixer families in relation to the feudal lords. Fussy and indirect seems somehow very close to the right picture of the stateless ones navigating always through the cracks and seams, compared to the blunt moves of the ones who had states.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have some discomfort that this doesn’t quite map. Yet it seems not fully dissimilar.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Eric<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">SFI sponsorship seems like very much a fideistic declaration. It would be interesting to see how that influence network feeds into a D.C. influencer network and real money. There are some linkages, like Brookings, but leverage-wise it all seems much softer than with LANL and the DOE. And it all seems so fussy and indirect compared to slapping down a few billion dollars to build a Starship. That's the appeal of Musk: I'm f'ing doing this. <br class=""></div><div id="x_m_2336448409393021354gmail-m_2825797194520838301m_-2063921091106213134m_-8945311292304768704m_-3508530760903268397gmail-m_2827969099721220955qt-x_gmail-m_1763955135694146404m_-1119016457442818218x_appendonsend" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 692.171875px;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div id="x_m_2336448409393021354gmail-m_2825797194520838301m_-2063921091106213134m_-8945311292304768704m_-3508530760903268397gmail-m_2827969099721220955qt-x_gmail-m_1763955135694146404m_-1119016457442818218x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">gepropella@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 24, 2022 5:08 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</span></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 13px;" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Well, that ain't true, either. Like Epstein, when you "invest" in the SFI or people like Steven Pinker or Bill Clinton, you're simply transferring from one store to another ... buying influence. If, e.g., the CIA contracts with the SFI to adapt a CAS modeling tool into a broad spectrum simulation tool, they are not only buying a (questionable) piece of software; they're buying *leverage* over people's salaries, loyalty, etc. So those VCs *will* see that money again, perhaps much less of it, depending on the efficiency of the transaction, or in fringe storage types (able to get past the receptionist after eating over-priced peri-Mexican food in order to have tea with smart people).<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On 1/24/22 15:31, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br class=""></div><div class="">> Some of them sponsor SFI for goodness' sake! They'll never see THAT money again!<br class=""></div><div class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div class="">glen<br class=""></div><div class="">Theorem 3. 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archives:
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</pre></blockquote></div><br class="">.-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - .<br class="">FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br class="">Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2fvirtualfriam&c=E,1,BcK6U7jvbfbv_OWA12cr5-9hWtb0N-Nn-myd8fuNO6ME5FJNcSPVu6JWMxA9YMpHjgS70MgDlFDzHzJIl7xUE9vFzEDgpWh7QjNKLxGJ2B1I_hwdxgJiqtFEmA,,&typo=1" rel="noreferrer
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archives:
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