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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/25/22 8:48 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<br>
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<p>We neuter many/most male pets and beasts of burden, slaughter many of them young (e.g. this is where most of our beef and chicken come from).</p>
<p>We do this for various reasons that are not entirely unrelated to the larger conversation here...<br>
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<div>On 1/25/22 7:35 AM, David Eric Smith wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 7:16 AM Merle Lefkoff <<a href="mailto:merlelefkoff@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">merlelefkoff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Dave is right.  Development experts have known for a long time that when girls get educated and women hold jobs outside the home they are much more likely to control childbearing.  However,
 the culture must change everywhere, and it happens quite slowly with lots of pushback.  Check out the new protest and direct action movement that's happening with young men demonstrating in the streets in S. Korea.  ("A Vicious Anti-Feminist Backlash Stuns
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<div style="font-family:Arial">It has been known for a long time that the most effective means of birth / population control was educating girls, followed closely by empowering girls, e.g., with micro-loans to start businesses. I remember studying this topic
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<div>On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2022 9:40 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</span></span> </div>
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<div dir="auto">Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant.  Two problems, "God" has tricks for making babies.  As for 1 child per couple didn't they "terminate" some babies (not fetuses, feti?), particularly females?  My impression is that
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 6:38 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of David Eric
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2022 6:01 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics</span></span> </div>
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<div>You know, as I read your characterization, Marcus, it took me back to Hannah Arendt’s description of feudal Europe and the role of the Rothschilds and other big Jewish quasi-stateless fixer families in relation to the feudal lords.  Fussy and indirect
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<div>I have some discomfort that this doesn’t quite map.  Yet it seems not fully dissimilar.<br>
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 are some linkages, like Brookings, but leverage-wise it all seems much softer than with LANL and the DOE.   And it all seems so fussy and indirect compared to slapping down a few billion dollars to build a Starship.  That's the appeal of Musk:  I'm f'ing doing
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<div><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">gepropella@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2022 5:08 PM<br>
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<div>Well, that ain't true, either. Like Epstein, when you "invest" in the SFI or people like Steven Pinker or Bill Clinton, you're simply transferring from one store to another ... buying influence. If, e.g., the CIA contracts with the SFI to adapt a CAS modeling
 tool into a broad spectrum simulation tool, they are not only buying a (questionable) piece of software; they're buying *leverage* over people's salaries, loyalty, etc. So those VCs *will* see that money again, perhaps much less of it, depending on the efficiency
 of the transaction, or in fringe storage types (able to get past the receptionist after eating over-priced peri-Mexican food in order to have tea with smart people).<br>
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<div>On 1/24/22 15:31, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
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