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<p>Send a swarm of drones with daisies to place in the Russian
gun-bores?</p>
<p>I actually know two people who were *there* at Kent State, one a
hippy/flower-child putting the daisies in the rifle-bores and the
other an excruciatingly young National Guardsman trying to stay at
attention with a straight face while nubile hippy-girls danced
around with said daisies. I can't say the effort was without
consequence, but I would have hoped for more.</p>
<p>We are overdue for "The Great Turning" as ideated by <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.joannamacy.net/main">Joanna
Macy</a> whose resume is deep and eclectic. She is well
respected in the Systems Dynamics modeling world, in the Western
Buddhist community, and worked for both the CIA and the Peace
Corps during the Cold War. As an acolyte of Erwin Laslo, she was
an early contributor to systems thinking and it's relationship to
the Buddhist concept of Dependent Co-arising. The term <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology">Deep Ecology</a>
is often associated with her.<br>
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<p> Most relevant of her writings to this discussion is her <a
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href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/423116.Coming_Back_to_Life"><i
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Practices to Reconnect Our Lives, Our World</i></a><i
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255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">which coined and
elaborated the idea of a Great Turning (a bit like a
sociopoliticaleconomicspiritual "thermal inversion" that is
overdue). My favorite however is <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://archive.org/details/worldasloverworl00macy">World
as Lover, World as Self</a>. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/2/22 10:27 AM, cody dooderson
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I will have to update my bumper sticker from
"Bread Not Bombs" to "Bread, Solar Panels, and Wind Turbines Not
Bombs."
<div dir="auto">I like that idea. The green war approach would
benefit everyone a lot more than sending in a swarm of
weaponized drones. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 2, 2022, 10:08 AM
Roger Critchlow <<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rec@elf.org</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm thinking that a way to escalate our
response to Putin, without actually fighting him, is to
build a "green war machine". Start a crash project to
research, develop, and deliver the technology to liberate
our european allies from their energy dependencies on
russian oil and gas. And everyone else as a side effect.
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<div>That this is all stuff that we *cough* should be doing
anyway is bonus content. But what we can't seem to do for
the "right" reasons might be easily done as a way to
thwart an enemy who is so successfully making himself the
most reviled man of our age.</div>
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<div>Longer term, the economic effects of the sanctions, the
social effects of the ukrainian refugee crisis, and the
demoralization of watching brute force in action are going
to hurt our side a lot. That may be Putin's actual
endgame for the "operation" while he pretends to be
Trump. Better to be doing something positive than to be
waiting around to see how it turns out.</div>
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