<div dir="auto">The state if the Internet in Russia:<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://qz.com/2138398/the-russian-internet-is-a-casualty-of-the-war-with-ukraine/">https://qz.com/2138398/the-russian-internet-is-a-casualty-of-the-war-with-ukraine/</a><br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 4:04 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal">There are articles like this one<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/civilised-european-look-like-us-racist-coverage-ukraine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/civilised-european-look-like-us-racist-coverage-ukraine</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One might deduce from this that Anglo-Saxon imperialist media doesn’t really care about countries having non-Anglo-Saxon civilian populations destroyed by weapons of mass destruction.   I would say there has been a cloud of rage over 9/11
 that only recently started to clear.   Anything in that cloud, like the entire middle east, could be considered hell.   Or like Las Vegas, what happens in Mosul stays in Mosul.  There were some reporters that would cover it, but overall, there were few in
 the U.S. that really cared what happened.  (And really, who *<b>ever</b>* thinks about Russia?  Who is this nut-job?)  There was violence that was “needed” (most recently with ISIS) and we were by in large readily willing to not look at it.   Obama remarked
 on it with remarkable detachment.   The Russians took advantage of this.  Yes, it is ugly that there is this contrast, but that doesn’t mean they should get away with it this time.   There were voices calling for intervention at the time. 
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<p class="MsoNormal">One might also say that morphing of Anglo-Saxon imperialism toward a principled liberal democracy is fake and insincere.  That seems to be Putin’s position.   But assuming this is all true, and all there is asserting power, then there is
 nothing left to talk about.   Send out the aircraft carriers.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Sarbajit Roy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 7, 2022 2:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] what's the view from Europe?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Both authors of the article are affiliated to the notoriously imperialistic Chatham House think tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:19 PM glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, for the wartime profiteers amongst us:<br>
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<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/07/tech-community-rallied-ukraine-cyber-defence-eu-nato" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/07/tech-community-rallied-ukraine-cyber-defence-eu-nato</a><br>
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"Cyber" was already everywhere, nauseously so. But now it'll be even worse.<br>
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On 3/7/22 09:45, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
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> It’s great for the military industrial complex in the U.S. and in Europe.   Close to home in New Mexico:   B61 revision 12s, yes, those will be in demand.<br>
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glen<br>
When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers.<br>
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