<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Did you ask him what he was working on? &nbsp;And did he give the same answer?<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 23, 2022, at 5:51 AM, Frank Wimberly &lt;<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" class="">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">I once asked an esteemed philosopher what an esteemed female philosopher was working on lately and he answered, "Generating incoherences as usual."<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto" class="">---<br class="">Frank C. Wimberly<br class="">140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br class="">Santa Fe, NM 87505<br class=""><br class="">505 670-9918<br class="">Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 2:41 PM Roger Critchlow &lt;<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org" class="">rec@elf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2faeon.co%2fessays%2fwhy-are-women-philosophers-often-erased-from-collective-memory&amp;c=E,1,h_0DrYRp0us6eAT8yAas7wo03zcK4a-eGeS-x9iNavE7atKc035m5ibEf48VUQaT7GUDUBmFhSJj9evhnZJF9nPkxz3mO88Oh1sPPp_K3XU,&amp;typo=1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://aeon.co/essays/why-are-women-philosophers-often-erased-from-collective-memory</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family: &quot;Academica Book Pro&quot;, Times, Georgia, serif;" class="">The most prominent is an elegantly analytic book concerning the role of metaphors in scientific thinking:&nbsp;</span><em style="font-family: &quot;Academica Book Pro&quot;, Times, Georgia, serif; box-sizing: border-box;" class="">Models and Analogies in&nbsp;</em><span style="font-family: &quot;Academica Book Pro&quot;, Times, Georgia, serif; box-sizing: border-box; white-space: nowrap;" class=""><em style="box-sizing:border-box" class="">Science</em></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Academica Book Pro&quot;, Times, Georgia, serif; box-sizing: border-box; white-space: nowrap;" class="">&nbsp;(1963).<br class=""></span></blockquote><div class="">&nbsp;</div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family: &quot;Academica Book Pro&quot;, Times, Georgia, serif; box-sizing: border-box; white-space: nowrap;" class=""></span>Hesse\u2019s book was ahead of its time. It also is out of print today. Meanwhile, Thomas Kuhn\u2019s ridiculously popular&nbsp;<em style="box-sizing:border-box" class="">The Structure of Scientific Revolutions</em>&nbsp;(1962), published just one year prior to her&nbsp;<em style="box-sizing:border-box" class="">Models and Analogies</em>, has been repeatedly reissued and enjoys the status of being a classic in the field.</blockquote></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-- rec --</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:37 PM David Eric Smith &lt;<a href="mailto:desmith@santafe.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">desmith@santafe.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Boy if I had a nickel for every instance of \u201cnew paradigm\u201d in academic papers, I would be so rich I could stop working for a living and invent a new paradigm in something.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Eric</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 5, 2022, at 1:05 AM, Russ Abbott &lt;<a href="mailto:russ.abbott@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">russ.abbott@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">This is the <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fevonomics.com%2fthe-making-of-rethinking-the-theoretical-foundation-of-economics%2f&amp;c=E,1,05n5irwWoH5RagfBWtWaas3Y8es4W50qr7WwqTGNgRV-7G7mwtJbEG4CIW13gnxkOA7AGrUPMJyXYpBiFjI4z8Jy8gEUfQfyro5eKe-WLfPJqKz5JoxhzE0mjw,,&amp;typo=1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">discussion by the authors</a>&nbsp;of <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mSkmB0nP1UNyrKE0LIN8-AfgD3DQGF4/view" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">the article</a>.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'd read the discussion first.</div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font class=""><u style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16.5px;line-height:20px" class=""><br class=""></u></font></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><font class=""><u style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16.5px;line-height:20px" class=""> </u></font><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16.5px;line-height:24.75px" class=""> </span>-- Russ&nbsp;<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 7:35 AM glen &lt;<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">gepropella@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Sorry for my incompetence. What "linked page"? I see a few non-DoI links inside the document:<br class="">
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<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fthisviewoflife.com%2fgreek-democracy-as-a-major-evolutionary-transition-a-conversation-with-josiah-ober%2f&amp;c=E,1,aQa9ED7yR2RfH-YSMj0aRCvjqSM6lAksa1vHXQ_ghBy_irlpk6Ek7vWOuaxGP9PpZJlIE0JN-u_uSDwDudVd6sHF4MMtRMyMoHI27__EJmipz9uj9eJ1Xwo,&amp;typo=1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://thisviewoflife.com/greek-democracy-as-a-major-evolutionary-transition-a-conversation-with-josiah-ober/</a><br class="">
<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fhumanenergy.io%2fprojects%2fscience-of-the-noosphere%2f&amp;c=E,1,Iqd2FfD-S8Mn7SBbNsfGyciGQicLKyb-WLUTDxppyp5EexXWVsxGQ7tv1xSiQmFhG4UYAhbIWN0HjuefLBy3GQ3Mfj4oGLK---doBrA6RNNPW7Q107zrpbFtGA,,&amp;typo=1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://humanenergy.io/projects/science-of-the-noosphere/</a><br class="">
<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.strategy-business.com%2ffeature%2fCommon-Purpose-Realigning-Business-Economies-and-Society&amp;c=E,1,QDVpKcoSvH10YLZfWZ366fvuAgqgj_22QLo3p8LDbTki9rhNwr-oExgzz5gKUlwnsYERGjngUo4Wfn13LRnfhEFToNFw5YcbOTt1CBLQ45_crTw,&amp;typo=1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.strategy-business.com/feature/Common-Purpose-Realigning-Business-Economies-and-Society</a><br class="">
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Is one of those what you mean? Or did you mean to include another link?<br class="">
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Thanks for the heads up, regardless. Regardless of where you stand on the thesis of the paper, the citations are fantastic!<br class="">
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On 4/2/22 11:59, Russ Abbott wrote:<br class="">
&gt; Strongly recommend reading the discussion on the linked page. It has a good overview of the issues and positions in the article.<br class="">
&gt; _<br class="">
&gt; _<br class="">
&gt; __-- Russ Abbott<br class="">
&gt; Professor Emeritus, Computer Science<br class="">
&gt; California State University, Los Angeles<br class="">
&gt; <br class="">
&gt; <br class="">
&gt; On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 11:33 AM Russ Abbott &lt;<a href="mailto:russ.abbott@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">russ.abbott@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:russ.abbott@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">russ.abbott@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br class="">
&gt; <br class="">
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Rethinking the theoretical foundation of economics I: The multilevel paradigm<br class="">
&gt; <br class="">
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;This article offers a new paradigm for economics: the \u201cmultilevel paradigm,\u201d which applies the Darwinian theory of evolution to the analysis of economic processes. \u201cDarwinian\u201d refers to all variation/selection/replication processes, not just genetic evolution, making it highly relevant to economic theory and practice. The economy is viewed as a system that is embedded within political, social and environmental systems. The evolution of economic activities is understood in terms of variation (innovation), selection (cooperative and competitive relations that survive) and&nbsp;replication (transmission and proliferation of ideas). The multilevel paradigm comes&nbsp;with its own definition and purpose of economics, as the discipline that explores how&nbsp;resources, goods and services can be mobilized in the pursuit of wellbeing in thriving&nbsp;societies, now and in the future. We describe the prominent characteristics of the&nbsp;multilevel paradigm: flexible, multiple levels of functional<br class="">
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;organization; the primacy of&nbsp;social relations, ignorance as uncertainty; multi-faceted, context-dependent wellbeing;&nbsp;and multilevel evolution as progress. <br class="">
&gt; <br class="">
&gt; <br class="">
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mSkmB0nP1UNyrKE0LIN8-AfgD3DQGF4/view" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mSkmB0nP1UNyrKE0LIN8-AfgD3DQGF4/view</a> &lt;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mSkmB0nP1UNyrKE0LIN8-AfgD3DQGF4/view" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mSkmB0nP1UNyrKE0LIN8-AfgD3DQGF4/view</a>&gt;<br class="">
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