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<p>Frank -</p>
<p>You of the "lost generation" are definitely the frontiersmen of
our domain... <br>
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<p>My first e-mail was on an ATT Unix system in 1977, as all UUNET
addresses were in those days, you had to guess (or know) the
intermediate relays that would get from here to there, off the
machine, much less off campus. I hit LANL in 1981 and we all had
lanl.gov addys (mine sas, go figure) which meant *most* UUNET
folks could get to me with minimal effort (and vice-versa)... as
I remember it, virtually every university (and military and
scientific org) had a DNS entry by mid 80s, facilitating it all.
An added level of indirection (degree of freedom) as the solution
often is.<br>
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<p>I was an early adopter of AFS (as well as the MIT suite of
IP-based toolkits) in the 80s. AFS was the perfect proof by
example that (as I remember it) lead to NFS.</p>
<p>A *heck* of a lot has happened in the last 50 years... (UNIX
Epoch?) and it is a strange brew of open-source, academic, big
tech, big gov, and scrappy entrepreneurs... <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/7/22 5:58 PM, Frank Wimberly
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I had a CMU Andrew account. You're all pikers.
Long live AFS.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:41 AM
Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>>
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Glen wrote:<br>
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Just yesterday, I saw an email post to a math forum from
someone with an <a href="http://aol.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">aol.com</a>
suffix. I thought "Who in hell still uses AOL?" Ha! Now
I've got a bad case of FOMO. But I'll be damned if I'm
joining yet another Discord server ... maybe next week. <br>
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<p>I was recently back in touch with a high-school chum.
She was quite proud of her <a href="http://aol.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">aol.com</a>
account and I didn't have the heart to tell her how much
the olde garde who had been on some version of the
internet before Al Gore (and AOL and Compuserve) invented
it considered AOL users to be an embarrassment. And then
there are the WELL (whole earth 'lectronic link) folks who
were (in?) ordinately proud of their Bay Area BBS system
that hosted thousands (tens of?) in the 80s. I still have
friends who use their <a href="http://well.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">well.com</a>
addys proudly. <br>
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<p>I am still a little mad/dismissive of AOL (and SciAm)
because we did an early hypermedia "proof of concept" for
SciAm (student project at LANL) and they blithely were (in
the background) signing like a 10 year deal with AOL to
provide that service for their customers. For that whole
decade (into the 2000s) I think Scientific American did
not even have a website (or when they did it was served
through AOL). We did all the mockup on a NeXT machine
which was a little unfair and/or showed things in too good
of a light really. Maybe what AOL did (pretty lame BTW)
was actually a good LCD (least common denominator) for
*their* customers and many who were dialing in at 1200bps
on an early Winderz or even DOS machine.</p>
<p>I was an early patron of the first ISP in Santa Fe
(StudioX/<a href="http://nets.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">nets.com</a>)
with Roadrunner.com and several others coming in on their
heels for my first private e-mail/web address, but let it
go when (on their 10th anniversary) they *said* they were
selling/passing us all off to one of the others and
becoming nothing but a boutique web design/services
shop. Apparently enough of their customers raised a
ruckus because after I'd moved to ABQ based Southwest
Cyberport (thus <a href="http://swcp.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">swcp.com</a>)
they retracted the threat and kept <a
href="http://nets.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">nets.com</a> running (through
whomever bought them out)... <br>
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<p>I do sometimes covet a <a href="http://well.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">well.com</a>
address, but not enough to actually sign up for it (seems
they *still* offer new <a href="http://well.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">well.com</a>
addresses?). <span lang="EN-US"><a
href="https://www.well.com/join/" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.well.com/join/</a>
$150/year!</span></p>
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