<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Here's some background on the issue of whether the KJV is the "true aka inspired" version: <a href="https://www.thenivbible.com/is-the-king-james-version-the-only-divinely-inspired-version/" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Is the King James Version the Only Divinely Inspired Version? - NIV Bible (thenivbible.com)</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">The Rev Talitha Arnold, senior minister at United Church of Christ, gave an excellent course at RENESAN here in Santa Fe on the production of the KJV. Surely no suggestion that it is the only valid version. That is the position of some Fundamentalist groups...and seems to have become a political, hence bumper sticker, issue.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>George Duncan</div><div>Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University<br><a href="http://georgeduncanart.com/" target="_blank">georgeduncanart.com</a></div><div>See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram</div>
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<p>Jochen -</p>
<p>I feel like an angel (or devil) dancing on the head of the FriAM
pin!</p>
<img src="https://www.d.umn.edu/~ddunham/isis4/figure11.gif" alt="" width="360" height="360">
<p>I wasn't able to get traction on the first post due to a blind
spot I think I have about the details of the history of
Christianity. More and more of it gets *through* to me each time
I read it, but because I have *broad* knowledge (with no depth
anywhere) I was left with questions like "what about the
Coptics?" and an anecdote: <br>
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<p>A few years ago, driving across Aamon Bundy country in W.
Washington A 4door dually diesel blew past me (70mph) at 90mph
"rolling coal" and sporting a bumper sticker that said "if it
ain't King James, it ain't Bible!". I have no idea what that was
all about (any of it really, but the bumper sticker in
particular). My best guess was that it was a dismissal of
Catholicism in particular? Or maybe the LDS church or maybe
Protestant sects that were not close to his? Doesn't LDS defer to
King James and just layer on their own Latter Day stuff over it?
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<p>I will dig deeper into the second post as I have developed a
fondness for Oracles (primarily the I Ching) over the decades as a
method for self-examination. <br>
</p>
<p>I don't think I know of your published book? Got lost in my
COVID spam?</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div>On 6/11/22 10:36 PM, Jochen Fromm
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Today was a productive day: 2 new blog posts, the
first about epigenetic changes in cultural evolution and the
difference of Protestant and Catholic church..<br>
<a href="https://blog.cas-group.net/2022/06/epigenetic-cultural-changes/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.cas-group.net/2022/06/epigenetic-cultural-changes/</a><br>
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..the second about the secret of oracles and their religious
dimension<br>
<a href="https://blog.cas-group.net/2022/06/the-secret-of-oracles/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.cas-group.net/2022/06/the-secret-of-oracles/</a><br>
<br>
Both are related to my book from 2020, which nobody except Dave
has read. The printed version sold exactly once and that was a
friend here in Berlin :-)<br>
<br>
Thanks Steve for the comment on this post too! <br>
<a href="https://blog.cas-group.net/2022/06/the-strange-phenomenon-of-consciousness/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.cas-group.net/2022/06/the-strange-phenomenon-of-consciousness/</a><br>
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-J.<br>
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