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    <p>Crazy coincidence...   just today we had planned our Hague visit
      but waved off due to heavy rain (15 minute walks on both ends of
      our train travel if we don't see anything *but* the primary
      goal)...   We are rescheduled for a (less rainy) Sunday visit.   A
      new friend/colleague here Hank Kune (who you will be meeting in
      due time, he is working with Hubville's Anders Varger and is a
      good candidate for DualSpace spec/alpha) recommended the Panorama
      Mesdag which I didn't click immediately as being the specific
      classical Panorama you had referenced months back...  but as I was
      making the decision to wait it was because of *another* feature in
      the Hague you didn't (I don't think) mention that has significant
      relevance to augmented spatial reality and urban/landscapes.<br>
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    <p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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    <p>More soon out of band...</p>
    <p>- SteveS<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/24/22 2:44 PM, Stephen Guerin
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          Reminder of this past thread on panoramas and to check out
          Panorama Mesdag (<a
            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panorama_Mesdag"
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          while in the Hague. I don't want to oversell it but I love the
          pure analog creation of immersion. Also, perhaps it was
          special because Ali, the boys and I,  spent a few days prior
          in the Hague beachside district of <a
            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheveningen"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheveningen</a>
          which is the location of the panorama paiting so I was very
          familiar with the location.<br>
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          Reminder on the era of panorama immersions in this thread:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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            rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Cool youtube on history
            of panoramic drawing from Calton Hill, Edinburgh for
            immersive exhibitions in London<br>
            <a href="https://youtu.be/wpSeIkl2EI4" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://youtu.be/wpSeIkl2EI4</a></blockquote>
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          there was another museum in The Hague we went to, Mauritshuis,
          that had some other artist but I forgot his name.</div>
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              From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Stephen
                Guerin</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a
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              Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:20 AM<br>
              Subject: Immersive Panoramas of the late 1800s, Edinburgh
              and other cities (first immersive metaverses)<br>
              To: Robert Holmes <<a href="mailto:rholmes62@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rholmes62@gmail.com</a>>,
              Richard Harris <<a
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              Miles Griffith Guerin <<a
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              Reed Guerin <<a href="mailto:guerinreed@gmail.com"
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              Fabio Carrera <<a href="mailto:carrera.fabio@gmail.com"
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              Ben Lichtner <<a href="mailto:bennlich@gmail.com"
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              Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sas@lava3d.com"
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            <div dir="ltr">Cool youtube on history of panoramic drawing
              from Calton Hill, Edinburgh for immersive exhibitions in
              London<br>
              <a href="https://youtu.be/wpSeIkl2EI4" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://youtu.be/wpSeIkl2EI4</a><br>
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              approximate location in Google Maps:<br>
              <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/4wzdoUn9gnKfjUcf7"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://goo.gl/maps/4wzdoUn9gnKfjUcf7</a> <br>
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              Other cities, like Venice are included in the youtube<br>
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              Thought of you, Robert, given your time in Edinburgh and
              for some reason when I heard the UofEdinburgh librarian
              utter "<a href="https://youtu.be/wpSeIkl2EI4?t=94"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">It does and it
                doesn't</a>" - I felt your presence :-)<br>
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              BTW, I was blown away when I experienced Panaorma Mesdag
              in person at the Hague with Ali and the boys a couple
              years ago<br>
              <a
href="https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/destinations/the-hague/panorama-mesdag.htm"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/destinations/the-hague/panorama-mesdag.htm</a><br>
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              The mixed media effect with real sand dunes and grass in
              the foreground, the gazebo and the skylight that allowed
              natural sunlight and cloud shadows for illumination on the
              360 panorama gave an awesome sense of presence. Better
              than VR headset as I experienced in person with my family
              unencumbered with headset and intersacting with foreground
              people. Google Photos<br>
              <a href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/HYvYeifT8xTtv2kF9"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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