<div dir="auto">FWIW. Dennett gave a talk at Carnegie Mellon not long after Consciousness Explained was published. He said, "Some wits have said the title should have been 'Consciousess Explained Away'. Ha Ha Ha." With pauses between the Ha's.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 11:13 AM Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Metaphors are in a sense the equations of the mind. At the core of many good books there is a single metaphor (for instance "The Selfish Gene" from Dawkins), or multiple ones (for example "Metaphors we live by" from Lakoff & Johnson). This week I have found a nice metaphor site..</div><div dir="auto"><a href="http://metaphors.lib.virginia.edu/metaphors" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://metaphors.lib.virginia.edu/metaphors</a><br><br>..when I googled the sailor metaphor from Descartes (which I saw in a Retweet of Keith Frankish from Theodore A. Hoppe). Descartes said "The "I" is not present in the body as a sailor is in a ship but is joined and intermingled with it"<br><a href="http://metaphors.lib.virginia.edu/metaphors/9253" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://metaphors.lib.virginia.edu/metaphors/9253</a><br><br>It is a remarkable quote from Descartes. To view the mind as an interwoven, intermingled and entangled substance sounds very modern to me. Maybe Descartes was not as wrong as Dennett claims in his book "Consciousness Explained"? If I recall correctly the whole book is based on dismissing the idea of a Cartesian Theater from Descartes <br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_theater" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_theater</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .<br>
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