<div dir="ltr">Thanks franks ^_^</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">3 is {0, {0}, {0, {0}}} according to one approach to a using sets to form numbers that satisfy the Peano axioms. In that approach 0 and the empty set are identical.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 2:02 PM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't know nearly enough mind bending high levels abstract maths to have more than tons of questions. I thought information (in the math sense) 'just' meant 3 of something and you might know of what but the absolute value of that 3 is the piece of info your starting with, and keep from being mangled when working backwords to what that 3 is in the real world . Or is this morein the spooky physics sense where if certain metals are made super duper cold you can levitetate trains kind of quantum mechanics??</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:00 AM glen∉ℂ <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from nothing<br>
<a href="https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/</a><br>
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It seems like this is another example where the arrogance of the abstraction reigns. Because the math relating holes and electrons is the same (?) as that relating electrons and positrons, does it mean studying one gives us insight into the other? Does the metaphysics really translate?<br>
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Arrogant or not, it's super effing cool.<br>
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