<div dir="ltr">Loci or Loki? :P</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:21 AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
On 9/18/22 8:00 AM, glen\u2209\u2102 wrote:<br>
> Even without the math, I think the main point is that of field vs <br>
> particle. We talk a lot about networks. But you can imagine a smooth <br>
> blob of goo (maybe like Silly Putty or pizza dough) being stretched <br>
> and kneaded such that some parts are hard-ish clumps and other parts <br>
> thin or splitting. That's what I'm thinking when I think about when a <br>
> positron and electron pop out from the fields.<br>
<br>
I appreciate this formulation. I find myself thinking more in terms of <br>
"concentrated loci" in a high-dimensional field when I otherwise would <br>
think of "network" of atoms (or simples)... the "schwinger effect" <br>
article provided a good overview of this conception in an energy/mass <br>
field... I'm (re)reading it now before "church" with St. Stephen of the <br>
Complexity Babble at Sopapilla factory... maybe a margarita to smooth <br>
out the wave-particle distinctions...<br>
<br>
it's loci all the way down...<br>
<br>
><br>
> On 9/17/22 13:01, Gillian Densmore wrote:<br>
>> I don't know nearly enough mind bending high levels abstract maths to <br>
>> have more than tons of questions. I thought information (in the math <br>
>> sense) 'just' meant 3 of something and you might know of what but the <br>
>> absolute value of that 3 is the piece of info your starting with, and <br>
>> keep from being mangled when working backwords to what that 3 is in <br>
>> the real world . Or is this morein the spooky physics sense where if <br>
>> certain metals are made super duper cold you can levitetate trains <br>
>> kind of quantum mechanics??<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:00 AM glen\u2209\u2102 <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank">gepropella@gmail.com</a> <br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank">gepropella@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> 70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is <br>
>> created from nothing<br>
>> <a href="https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/</a> <br>
>> <<a href="https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/</a>><br>
>><br>
>> It seems like this is another example where the arrogance of the <br>
>> abstraction reigns. Because the math relating holes and electrons is <br>
>> the same (?) as that relating electrons and positrons, does it mean <br>
>> studying one gives us insight into the other? Does the metaphysics <br>
>> really translate?<br>
>><br>
>> Arrogant or not, it's super effing cool.<br>
><br>
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