<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It\u2019s funny; I know Bert. &nbsp;<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One of our colleagues played a role in bringing him out to work at Google in Tokyo. &nbsp;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A mathematician (Will Cavendish) who has part-time support at IAS&nbsp;</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.ias.edu/scholars/will-cavendish" class="">https://www.ias.edu/scholars/will-cavendish</a></div><div class="">is also interested in the mathematical dimensions of this, though I have only a glancing exposure to how those two together are trying to frame the problems. &nbsp;Because Bert has come at it more from the ALife/engineering approach, and Will\u2019s interests run more in the direction of proving capabilities of broad classes of systems, often interested in their aggregation as categories &nbsp;(and also about the role of simulation as a replacement for proof in systems that produce complicated enough state spaces), it should be a productive and interesting collaboration. &nbsp;I don\u2019t know how engaged others are in the Google group on this specific project, because I am too far outside that loop.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Eric&nbsp;<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 23, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Jon Zingale &lt;<a href="mailto:jonzingale@gmail.com" class="">jonzingale@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/1812.05433.pdf" class="">https://arxiv.org/pdf/1812.05433.pdf</a><br class=""></div></div>
-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .<br class="">FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br class="">Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe &nbsp;&nbsp;/ &nbsp;&nbsp;Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2fvirtualfriam&amp;c=E,1,0pWzNXXX_Raq1eysHKyZRDqVeCy2N9yFnpvE7ppkOw8ohyJkCG___HK8xiT75dOTEj2sLBnpc2yeHoHiCzLQd5fPbpnK8tXfJim_ca1E&amp;typo=1" class="">https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2fvirtualfriam&amp;c=E,1,0pWzNXXX_Raq1eysHKyZRDqVeCy2N9yFnpvE7ppkOw8ohyJkCG___HK8xiT75dOTEj2sLBnpc2yeHoHiCzLQd5fPbpnK8tXfJim_ca1E&amp;typo=1</a><br class="">to (un)subscribe <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&amp;c=E,1,1fwzu0qXJcoPS0fEaZcwW56FTdFRep42N9rDBi91_G2-PvGVGW2HzuAVcOPxE4osJJNtfCcw2yx0zVVHx1RlKlemHECAf6q7SrlZk2KL72RfJOw,&amp;typo=1" class="">https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&amp;c=E,1,1fwzu0qXJcoPS0fEaZcwW56FTdFRep42N9rDBi91_G2-PvGVGW2HzuAVcOPxE4osJJNtfCcw2yx0zVVHx1RlKlemHECAf6q7SrlZk2KL72RfJOw,&amp;typo=1</a><br class="">FRIAM-COMIC <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,I4Gv708ZTI4rOSVpH5Ua680y6GPxPt_Q8fpOnaz7Ewno-4sRs7jmmEcuBBLI4m0DgDXAd1LL-fe9tS1ElomDHGuwLXwKbwNJgMUFGkfThmA,&amp;typo=1" class="">https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,I4Gv708ZTI4rOSVpH5Ua680y6GPxPt_Q8fpOnaz7Ewno-4sRs7jmmEcuBBLI4m0DgDXAd1LL-fe9tS1ElomDHGuwLXwKbwNJgMUFGkfThmA,&amp;typo=1</a><br class="">archives: &nbsp;5/2017 thru present <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fpipermail%2ffriam_redfish.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,BpuhRd8UczAd-KUTPi2oL0WshLt3g6g8vXSP44WMywuXJOOFOcDRJdjP0KyqD5wpmQU0Xp10qw1i5sOdGvhB7DwhZAT1ZAYGqj0vhaEeXTKJC4XCsznLi7Y,&amp;typo=1" class="">https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fpipermail%2ffriam_redfish.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,BpuhRd8UczAd-KUTPi2oL0WshLt3g6g8vXSP44WMywuXJOOFOcDRJdjP0KyqD5wpmQU0Xp10qw1i5sOdGvhB7DwhZAT1ZAYGqj0vhaEeXTKJC4XCsznLi7Y,&amp;typo=1</a><br class=""> &nbsp;1/2003 thru 6/2021 &nbsp;<a href="http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/" class="">http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>