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    <p>Merle - <br>
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    <p>THE <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Abraham_(mathematician)">Ralph
        Abraham</a>?  Or the OTHER <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Abraham_(politician)">Ralph
        Abraham</a>?  Or Yet Another... ?</p>
    <p>The <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.sheldrake.org/videos/trialogues-at-the-edge-of-the-millennium">Trialogues</a>
      comes to mind...  I didn't realize how young McKenna was when he
      passed just a few years later.  I still can't get past most of
      Sheldrake's hyperbolic-woo-pseudoscientific framing, and do wonder
      at how Abraham sorts all that out internally.   It isn't
      surprising to find a pure Maths guy engaged in very mystical
      thinking, no fundamental contradictions required I don't think.<br>
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    <p>I don't think I've ever met Ralph and I could never quite suss
      out how much influence he had directly (certainly indirectly?) on
      Shaw/Farmer/Packard/Crutchfield's "Chaos Cabal"...   Does anyone
      know how to find Julia Landau's strange documentary tangenting "<a
        moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://vimeo.com/129239092">Strange
        Attractors</a>"?  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.4822680">Gleick's
        book</a> was the first time I realized that Doyne and Norm came
      from Silver City, and then I discovered that my sister with to
      Kindergarten with Norm's brother Vance...   Rob used to hang out
      at SFx from time to time and his brother Chris would drop through
      and talk about his Haptek-sponsored
      "chatterbot"/avatar/PeoplePutty work: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/haptek/chris-shaw-talk-at-chatbots-3-2/"
        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/haptek/chris-shaw-talk-at-chatbots-3-2/</a> 
      which was pretty advanced, considering what we are getting excited
      about with deepfakes/AI-art these days.   I knew Haptek when it
      formed originally to develop haptic hardware interfaces for VR a
      decade earlier...  <br>
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    <p>Regarding your original opening question.   I was a little late
      to the Jan6 livestream and was reminded of how much being in
      *perfect* sync with realtime events isn't that important,
      especially if I can ignore the fact that anyone in-sync is 30
      minutes ahead of me....  like TiVO, I forget that by being behind,
      I can fast-forward through the dull-parts if I want!</p>
    <p>The production quality of the event and the whole series has been
      categorically high, IMO.  To the extent this is really about
      *crafting a narrative* more than the *investigation* it is
      labeled, I continue to be frustrated.  Not specifically with the
      Dems or this committee, or Congress, etc.. but the way we do
      collective narrative creation/discovery, etc.    Trump's entire
      "Big Steal" and "Fake News" narrative is an example, but then this
      becomes at best a (semi?) righteous counter-narrative.  Makes me
      reflect (without following) back on Glen's references to
      Strawson's <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Paper/against_narrativity.pdf">"Against
        Narrativity"</a>. </p>
    <p>I particularly liked Beau (of the Fifth Column)'s analysis: <a
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/14/22 12:56 PM, Merle Lefkoff
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What did everyone think
          about this last hearing?  I watched it with Ralph Abraham,
          whom some of you might know of.  He is visiting me for a week
          here in Santa Fe and had some interesting perspectives on our
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Of course Ralph and I
          are also having fun conversations about the ever-present and
          unknowable electromagnetic field.  Life is good, despite the
          possibility that I am but a hologram in a random universe
          heading down a Black Hole.  </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:56
          AM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com"
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          <div dir="ltr">Several people, including me, want to watch the
            hearing.  When I left Dave West and Jon Z were the only ones
            there.
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at
              9:38 AM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com"
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi, Frank. In the midst of
                      packing hysteria, here.  Participation doubtful. 
                      Please, if any topic comes up that “needs” me, msg
                      me at 413-404-2942. Thx. N</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Nick Thompson</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a
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                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Wimberly<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2022 11:13
                        PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
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