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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks, Glen.
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<div>It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic
reference url that one could use to name a book that only
conveyed the thing in itself. Goodreads was that once, then
Amazon bought them. Ditto for video and audio recordings and
other objects of public interest.</div>
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<p>I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two
problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also
the too often spotty reviews... I don't provide many nor
particularly good reviews myself, so I've no room to complain
really.</p>
<p>So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference
url" point. It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I
haven't done the work to understand how new entries are made...
are they always required to be made by a citizen of the community
who is NOT affiliated with the book (publisher, author, etc)?
I find a *lot* of the books I seek in Wikipedia and prefer them
for reference when their book-description (and cross links to
related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that is also
spotty. I use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are
reading and what *they* think of their reads.</p>
<p>The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired
by private interests (even public corporations are private
interests) is disturbing (FB <-Mapillary,
Amazon<-Goodreads)... Twitter->BoringCo, etc)<br>
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<div>Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube
videos. Interestingly, her primary institutional
affiliation is the Art Institute of Chicago, where as
resident scientist she teaches math to art students. She
has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City
this month. Her definition of category theory is "the
mathematics of mathematics" which she expands as "the
logical study of the logical study of logical things."</div>
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<div>Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which
Amazon fails to index on his amazon author page, though it
is on amazon at a blistering price in every available
format. I found a pdf on the internets. It's details the
history of working out the chemical identity of water.
Two themes are that 1) the consensus answers to scientific
questions often change in anticipation of the arrival of
corroboration, 2) there are often multiple acceptable
answers to scientific questions. These are possibly
consequences of being a realisitic realist.</div>
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<p>Interesting set of recursions... we CS types tend to love our
arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like
double-negatives, and Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's
logical logicologoy of logics and realistic realists are ...
*special*? While some may prefer "turtles all the way down"
sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices?</p>
<p>- Steve</p>
<p>PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech&Chong" on the
first reading of this thread. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM
glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com"
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There.
I fixed that for you. 8^D<br>
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On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:<br>
> Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he
mentioned some books of interest, and while looking for them I
discovered yet another book.<br>
> <br>
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<a
href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222</a><br>
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> Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224><br>
> Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of
Math, Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022.<br>
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> A presentation of category theory that keeps the
underlying algebra basic.<br>
> <br>
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<a
href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389</a><br>
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> Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and
Scientific Progress<br>
> <br>
> An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong
turns taken along the way, more detail than even the author
cares to read again. Poetic justice to examine the operation
of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the centuries as it
rescues workable definitions of temperature from thermal
confusion.<br>
> <br>
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<a
href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384</a><br>
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> Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New
Pragmatist Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on
November 30, 2022.<br>
> <br>
> -- rec --<br>
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