<div dir="ltr">I'll leave this here then:<div><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20160112000701/http://www.timecube.com/">http://web.archive.org/web/20160112000701/http://www.timecube.com/</a><br></div><div>and no it doesn't make sense.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Good one Carl/Ken ...</p>
<p>And don't even get me started on converting calendars and clocks
to *metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions over decimals
for everyday measures and calculations).</p>
<p>As a child, WWV was one of the very few constant signals I could
tune in on my parent's antique (even then) "Zenith Wave Magnet"
they let me keep in my bedroom... I can still see the dull orange
glow seeping out of the back of the set when the tubes were
cooking... now-adays when I fire it up I also smell the dust
burning off. Deeply visceral... "beep, beep, beep..." WWV-Fort
Collins.</p>
<p>I haven't cared "much" about DST in any part of my life... it has
just been an opportunity to stir the pot and be contrarian about
something I know to be arbitrarily arbitrary really. Same for
metric/english/archaic measures. All those things exist for good
reason even if they persist for bad ones.<br>
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<div>On 11/4/22 10:45 PM, Carl Tollander
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">OK, then. Ken Nordine on Time.
<div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYpCdY4Y_0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYpCdY4Y_0</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:33 PM
Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022</a>.
steeeve
<div>It's a BFD to me because of GP. mucking about with the
clock a ruining winter is dumb.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at
4:26 PM glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank">gepropella@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Honestly, I just don't
get why it's such a big deal. Sure, it's obsolete. And
maybe it kills a few people, raises cortisol, etc. But
there are so many other things that affect our (sleep)
cycles soooooo much more, like obesity, alcoholism, wage
slavery, TikTok fomo, ... on and on. Passing such a law
feels like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Or
maybe complaining about how a reporter discussing Putin
mispronounces "nukular" ... an odd thing to complain about
while the ICBM heads your way.<br>
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On 11/4/22 15:17, Steve Smith wrote:<br>
> <br>
> On 11/4/22 4:14 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:<br>
>> Didn't the sunshine act already pass? but yes I
agree I despise the clock change bull sh**** It takes
effect next year unless Turtle neck had his usual tantrum.<br>
> <br>
> From the linked article:<br>
> <br>
> /Earlier this year, the U.S. Senate unanimously
passed bipartisan legislation to abolish clock changes and
make daylight saving time permanent, beginning in 2023.
Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, introduced////the Sunshine
Protection Act <<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623</a>>//,
and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, was among the co-sponsors./<br>
> <br>
> /"Glad the Senate has passed the Sunshine
Protection Act so Oregonians aren’t springing back &
forth each year in a silly exercise that hurts everybody’s
health & our economy," Wyden tweeted March 15. "Time
now for the House to act."/<br>
> <br>
> /In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to pass the
bill, which is now stalled and scheduled to expire in
December./<br>
> <br>
> /Let the debate resume in March 2023./<br>
> <br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" target="_blank">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual
clock changes... and I thought the Sunshine Act <<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623</a>>would
put an end to that nonsense even if did fall on the "wrong
side" with a year-round DST timesqew. Looks like it is
going to fail despite bipartisan support in the Senate
(unsurprising that Florida, closest to the equator,
effected least, would be the one to sponsor/promote
it?)...<br>
>><br>
>> Oregon (in coordination with CA/WA) have
tried to take things into their own hands independent of
the rest of the country?<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2022/11/03/oregon-daylight-saving-time-november-march/69613463007/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2022/11/03/oregon-daylight-saving-time-november-march/69613463007/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I suppose I could live with the sqew and just
change the idioms from 12 noon and 12 midnight to 11 noon
and 11 midnight and call it a day/year/life. Seems like
it would just make more sense to sqew the 8-5 (or 9-4) for
bankers) an hour earlier instead, but what is the point of
having a state/federal/global government if it isn't going
to decide for you how we index time?<br>
>><br>
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