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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/5/22 10:50 AM, Gillian Densmore
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<div dir="ltr">I'll leave this here then:
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<div>and no it doesn't make sense.</div>
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<blockquote>Geeze Gil! What are you trying to do to me? That lead
to some serious Klein-Bottle Navel-Gazing!</blockquote>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 10:18
AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>>
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<p>Good one Carl/Ken ...</p>
<p>And don't even get me started on converting calendars and
clocks to *metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions
over decimals for everyday measures and calculations).</p>
<p>As a child, WWV was one of the very few constant signals
I could tune in on my parent's antique (even then) "Zenith
Wave Magnet" they let me keep in my bedroom... I can still
see the dull orange glow seeping out of the back of the
set when the tubes were cooking... now-adays when I fire
it up I also smell the dust burning off. Deeply
visceral... "beep, beep, beep..." WWV-Fort Collins.</p>
<p>I haven't cared "much" about DST in any part of my
life... it has just been an opportunity to stir the pot
and be contrarian about something I know to be arbitrarily
arbitrary really. Same for metric/english/archaic
measures. All those things exist for good reason even if
they persist for bad ones.<br>
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<div>On 11/4/22 10:45 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">OK, then. Ken Nordine on Time.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at
4:33 PM Gillian Densmore <<a
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<div dir="ltr"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022</a>.
steeeve
<div>It's a BFD to me because of GP. mucking about
with the clock a ruining winter is dumb.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 4,
2022 at 4:26 PM glen <<a
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0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Honestly, I
just don't get why it's such a big deal. Sure,
it's obsolete. And maybe it kills a few people,
raises cortisol, etc. But there are so many other
things that affect our (sleep) cycles soooooo much
more, like obesity, alcoholism, wage slavery,
TikTok fomo, ... on and on. Passing such a law
feels like rearranging the deck chairs on the
Titanic. Or maybe complaining about how a reporter
discussing Putin mispronounces "nukular" ... an
odd thing to complain about while the ICBM heads
your way.<br>
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On 11/4/22 15:17, Steve Smith wrote:<br>
> <br>
> On 11/4/22 4:14 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:<br>
>> Didn't the sunshine act already pass? but
yes I agree I despise the clock change bull sh****
It takes effect next year unless Turtle neck had
his usual tantrum.<br>
> <br>
> From the linked article:<br>
> <br>
> /Earlier this year, the U.S. Senate
unanimously passed bipartisan legislation to
abolish clock changes and make daylight saving
time permanent, beginning in 2023. Sen. Marco
Rubio, R-Florida, introduced////the Sunshine
Protection Act <<a
href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623</a>>//,
and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, was among the
co-sponsors./<br>
> <br>
> /"Glad the Senate has passed the Sunshine
Protection Act so Oregonians aren’t springing back
& forth each year in a silly exercise that
hurts everybody’s health & our economy," Wyden
tweeted March 15. "Time now for the House to
act."/<br>
> <br>
> /In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to
pass the bill, which is now stalled and scheduled
to expire in December./<br>
> <br>
> /Let the debate resume in March 2023./<br>
> <br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve
Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> as we all know I'm no fan of
semi-annual clock changes... and I thought the
Sunshine Act <<a
href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623</a>>would
put an end to that nonsense even if did fall on
the "wrong side" with a year-round DST timesqew.
Looks like it is going to fail despite bipartisan
support in the Senate (unsurprising that Florida,
closest to the equator, effected least, would be
the one to sponsor/promote it?)...<br>
>><br>
>> Oregon (in coordination with CA/WA)
have tried to take things into their own hands
independent of the rest of the country?<br>
>><br>
>> <a
href="https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2022/11/03/oregon-daylight-saving-time-november-march/69613463007/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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>><br>
>><br>
>> I suppose I could live with the sqew
and just change the idioms from 12 noon and 12
midnight to 11 noon and 11 midnight and call it a
day/year/life. Seems like it would just make
more sense to sqew the 8-5 (or 9-4) for bankers)
an hour earlier instead, but what is the point of
having a state/federal/global government if it
isn't going to decide for you how we index time?<br>
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