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<div style="font-family:Arial;">Not Sheep, but human societies,
have done similar things in our collective past.<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">David Graeber's book, the Origin
of Everything, details the multiplicity of organizational and
governmental forms and poses the question of how did we get
stuck in the one we have now.<br>
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<p>It does seem not unlike technological lockin... Their have been
modes of mutual lockin over and over in history it seems... and
generally takes (took) an external perturbation to break the
pattern. Some of us imagined/hoped that the fall of the Soviet
Union would lead to a significantly new global dynamic with a
modest "peace dividend". And the formalization/normalization
European national-relations that lead to the EU was another phase
transition. The results were limited (modulo
Ukraine/Brexit/GreekAusterity/???).<br>
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<p>I think Dave is (West, Weingrow and Graeber, all) is suggesting
something much more significant (even) than things like the shift
from Czarist Russia to the Leninist Communist early Soviet Union.</p>
<p>Harari's _Sapiens_ describes a time before the age of (European)
Exploration when there were a handful of separate
Universes-of-Culture with presumably *NO* mutual contact
(Afro-Eurasia, MesoAmerica, Andean South America, Australia,
Pacifica) on the scale of centuries if not millenia. Meanwhile,
there were myriad foraging/subsistence subcultures aware of and
constrained by but not *driven* by these mega-cultures who were
able to form up their own variations based on myriad factors. <br>
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<p>It seems to me that our current lock-in is severely limited by
the global transportation, communication (and therefore
trade/military, etc) technological reality.</p>
<p>Those of us who might openly idealize (DaveW, GaryS, Self, ...) a
rural semi-self-sufficient self-governing lifestyle are (should
be) confronted with the lack of resource available for more than a
tiny fraction of the current 8billion to live that way. One of
Harari's points about the "dawn of agriculture" is that the result
was *not* an improved nutrition/security profile for any
individual (just the opposite), but rather a denser (human)
carrying capacity of a landscape. It appears we have gone past
that point everywhere but the most remote regions. Even the
hinterlands of NM, UT, and Ecuador where the three of us
implicated by this paragraph live are likely well past being able
to support a subsistence (much less foraging) lifestyle for even a
fraction of those already parked here? The scale of apocalypse
required to reduce population to such a level is unthinkable by
most measures... not to mention all the damn Zombies wandering
around for decades until their bodies fully decompose?</p>
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<div>On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 7:26 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:<br>
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