<div dir="ltr"><div>You nailed it that the note 10 is basically a phablet. lol I am probably the wrong person to ask about modern terms. FWIW I don't think reviewers use that. But ya know what? I know what you mean and that's what counts. and yeah man sharing it forward is one of the things that's becoming a lost art. Man back in the day me and my buds exchanged games and gizmos a ton. lol sure their was some (a lot ) of the dubious sneaker netting with games or whatever being burned to CD. But their was some amount of: "Oh hey dude this monitor/keyboard/computer part isn't for me- you can have it for that other thing you don't want/like/need" I think in school I had a ton of random keyboards, coax wires and what not from that. A lot of time it was also at LAN parties "you can borrow (or bumb*) my thingy if I can have a extra stick of ram of yours to play (game here)"<br></div><div>Their is a small but vocal and growing contingent codre of people demanding keyboards on phones again. So I am holding out a lot of hope they'll comeback. A huge part of the issue is momentum, companies charging a bajillion dollars for cameras and "influencers" drooling on just that. Meenwhile regular reviewers going: the UI/UX is fudge awful but made better an external KB sony, apple, samsung someone? make that so!.</div><div><br></div><div>And also yeah: on the side note: Bingo. I meen, I figure the odd times I need (or want?) a QOL thing, and is possible I'll do refurbed on GP. A fraction of the cost. and I feel better for it to do my bit to buy the environment time from ewaste. <br></div><div>*Now I wonder where the slang: Bumb something off of someone comes from. Like bumb a ride, or bumb a few bucks from someone for a snack.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 4:22 PM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Gil -</p>
<p>congrats on your upgraded palmtop, external keyboard, trackball
and all! When I saw the name (Note10) I thought maybe it was
technically a Phablet (is that even a contemporary term? how big
does a phone (or small a tablet) have to be to be a phablet?)
I'd probably go for a phablet if I had bigger pockets... maybe if
I took up wearing nothing but bib overalls (as too many of my
relatives do... not even a t-shirt in the summer) it would be
"just right" (big chest-pocket).</p>
<p>Sorry you didn't find a physical-keyboard model to acquire...
REC's links were surprising, I thought they were totally
deprecated!<br>
</p>
<p><self-indulgent tangential rant> I share your preference
for used/refurbed even though I know that stream tends to be a
*fraction* of the *new* stream size... one upcycle/recycle loop
in the stream is at least a nudge in the right direction. It is
a little like my philosophy on picking up hitchhikers. Not only
do I give someone in need a ride somewhere, I also lower the
anxiety of the next 10-100 folks driving by who might "worry"
either that they shoulda-but-didn't-pick-them-up or
that-person-is-crazy-dangerous-and-I-hate-the-world. I'm now on
the back end of this process now, carefully seeking new (probably
final) homes for old tech that I rescued a decade or two ago, got
good use from, and am now ready to "share forward" one more
time... like the three LCD monitors I unloaded on you recently!</p>
<p>But fusion energy will "fix all that", we can just dump our old
tech into the tiny-suns at the hearts of each building/community
(heck in the chest of your suit of flying armour, tony stark
style!). It wasn't that long ago that every commercial building
(Industry or apartments) had their own incenerator in the basement
where *everything* was flash-fried and the results belched into
the (already murky?) air over the cityscape. Good for
human-remains disposal too?<br>
</p>
<p>I'm not doing it myself, but I did discover that along with
better and better methods for turning PET/HDPE? plastic bottles
into 3D printer filament, that in the Himalayan highlands, they
are building rocket-mass heaters capable of consuming (most of)
the toxic emissions when plastic waste is burned (too often burned
open-pit there). The very high combustion temperatures in the
throat of the (very low-tech) rocket stove are enough to break
down *most* of the noxious bits and then the rapid condensation
when the "jet" hits the "bell" of the stove means that most of
the toxic by-products end up on the inner surfaces of the bell and
the exhaust is mostly just above-ambient temperature CO2/H2O. The
hydrocarbon chains are also dense fuel compared to cellulose, so
the desired high combustion temperatures are easier to obtain and
maintain. I do let the plastic-window-bits of my junk-mail go
into mine but no juice bottles or cello wrapping for me... I
mostly stick to aluminum and glass which is either well worth the
effort to recycle or mostly inert. My rocket-mass stove is pretty
happy eating typical yard-waste, I don't want to spoil it with
high-test plastic!<br>
</p>
<p>On my trip to EU I upgraded the fairly lame solar-rechargeable
6500 mAh battery packs to 30k versions suitable for multiple
phone recharges and even driving a heated travel blanket. I have
been handing out $5 bills, chocolate bars, and hand-toe warmers to
folks flying signs on the street and I *hope* one of them can make
good use of on of these (now 10+ year old) power banks even though
they A) barely top up a half-empty contemporary cell phone, and B)
take several days of full sun to recharge without plugging into a
USB source. I do have an older Android whose, battery is only
good for an hour or two I suppose I could pair with one of
these... I haven't been able to get the 2 hand-me-down iPads I
have updated well enough to do *anything*... first significant
"planned obselescence" I've seen in Apple Products... or I'd pass
those along as well.</p>
<p>I just reconnected with the SF MakerSpace (you should check them
out if you don't know them) and I'm hoping they can absorb some of
my duplicate/triplicate shop/hand tools that several dead/retiring
men left to me over the last decade or two. The coming
population collapse (next pandemic, next assault-rifle-armed-MAGA
temper tantrum, next rogue authoritarion with nuclear codes?) will
leave us (or not) all with way more gak than we know what to do
with... time to start being clever upcyclers!</p>
<p></rant><br>
</p>
<p>- Steve <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>On 12/20/22 12:12 PM, Gillian Densmore
wrote:<br>
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<div>First up is samsungs note 10. In a nutshell fun af, and
complete, It's old phone that feals modern af. love the option
to use a stylus for notes. It's a chonker of a phone. This one
was refurbed*. It came from amazon and it's good as new.
fantastic reception. and yeah just a cool phone. android</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A external keyboard: (don't have a link atm): Omg what a
difference for quick texts when going to googles messages from
the web is overkill. The one I have Is more meant for inplace
typing. and meant to be used with a case and I think on a
desktop or something. Sigh RIPish phones with keyboards.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GQZVH78?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1" target="_blank">Elecom Deft: </a> (arg
gmails weird way to format!!): at any rate: in short? love it.
It's trackball. I had one like it for a few years before it
broke. I got it on impulse because I got frustrated with the
small mousing area of my desk. It pleasantly surprised me how
fast I adjusted. This one is wireless which is fantastic when
you have a small space. I have no clue about the mechanical
side. Just after a week and change of use it's my favorite
mouse so far. I've tried one with a bajillion dpi and polling
rates and blah blah. but this relatively simple guy is
just...fun? to use. I haven't tried it with games yet. if it's
like the other trackball I suspect i'll be good. Has function
buttons, I think those are for macros. All in all just great.
uses 2.4 ghtz usb dongle to connect and a AA battery.<br>
</div>
<div>*I've gotten to prefer used gizmos because of being very
concerned about the environment. <br>
</div>
<div>Back to our regularly scheduled geek out about Ai.<br>
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