<div dir="ltr">AH! egad, that's so large and far away I can almost get my head around it. lol no wonder we want infra-red. that's practically going backwards by then</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 10:57 AM Roger Frye <<a href="mailto:frye.roger@gmail.com">frye.roger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">They are shifted so far to the red that when they reach us, they are stop lights.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 9:42 AM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Same Q! My guess is what they meen is that stuff is reely far away so it'd be like looking at events that had happened but we can catchup to the show because of distance somehow due to lag essentially. Someone that knows more about this then I do hopefully has a much more concrete answer. Fwiw it's the kind of things that keeps NDGT ( Niel DeGrasse Tyson) up lol<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 10:21 AM Owen Densmore <<a href="mailto:owen@backspaces.net" target="_blank">owen@backspaces.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">In aj NYTimes article:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/27/science/astronomy-webb-telescope.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/27/science/astronomy-webb-telescope.html</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">..there is the usual discussion on "seeing back to the first several millennia".<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">But, and be kind, why haven't these photons already sped past us? I suppose it is because the exanssion is uniformly everywhere, we just kept ahead of them? That seems unlikely given the expansion is slower than light.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> -- Owen</div></div>
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