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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/17/23 10:47 AM, Marcus Daniels
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">There are many idiosyncrasies of me that I
          would just as soon not exist.  The new avatar could be the
          aspirational me!</p>
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    <p>It seems like it might be good if we are going post-human to
      polyp off aspirational digital "clones" which can then try to
      survive in a digital clone-ecosystem...  maybe this could be a way
      humanity could make a large (sociocultural) evolutionary lurch
      forward before we render it in our genome?</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"><friam-bounces@redfish.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of
              </b>Prof David West<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 17, 2023 8:59 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My
              sympathies would be with your friend—until such time as a<b><i><u>
                    "clone exactly like her ... behavior, words, or even
                    existence..."
                  </u></i></b>was demonstrated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Exactly"
              is a big word! and I would add "completely."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Even on a
              single dimension, say use of language, the standard of
              exact and complete is hard to satisfy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have no
              problem believing that a chat-bot could write an academic
              paper or either of my books; put together, and deliver in
              my voice, a lecture ; play bar-trivia at the pub; or carry
              on a convincing conversation. I have no doubt that, in the
              very near future, the same bot might be able to project a
              video that included mannerisms and simulation of the way I
              pace around a classroom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But
              exactitude would require, not only, all the things I do
              do, and the idiosyncrasies in the way that I do them, but
              also the idiosyncrasies of my inabilities: I can never get
              the crossword clues involving popular culture, for
              example.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">If a
              clone is built that "walks like a duck and quacks like a
              duck" but does not migrate or lay eggs; is it really a
              duck?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would
              concede the equivalence issue of means or mechanisms
              behind the observable; e.g., it does not matter if the
              observed behavior results from electrons in gold wires or
              electrons in dendrites. But I would at least raise the
              question as to whether, in specific instances, a
              'subjective' behind the behavior is or is not critical.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">For
              example, and forgive the personal, you have mentioned
              being in pain all of your life. Would it be necessary for
              a bot to "feel pain" as you have in order to "act exactly
              like you?" Or is there an "algorithmic equivalent"
              possible for the bot to utilize in order to obtain
              unerring verisimilitude?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Then
              there is the whole question of experience in general.
              Would
              <b><i><u>I</u></i></b> really be <b><i><u>me</u></i></b>,
              sans the LSD trips over the years? If not, then how will
              the bot "calculate" for itself, identical or at least
              highly similar, experience equivalents.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Even if,
              in principle, it were possible to devise algorithms and
              programs that did result in behavior that mimicked Dave at
              every stage of its existence, will those algorithms be
              invented and programs written before the heat death of the
              universe? You cannot attempt to finesse this quest by
              invoking "self-learning" because then you need a training
              set that is at least as extensive as the 75 year training
              set that the mechanism you would have me be, has utilized
              to become me.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I might
              agree that, in principle,<b><i><u> "A bot that acts
                    indistinguishably from how you act *is* you,"
                  </u></i></b>I think the implication of the word
              "indistinguishably" is a bar that will never be attained.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">davew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On Tue,
              May 16, 2023, at 6:46 PM, glen wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              That's a great point. To be honest, anyone who is
              accurately mimicked by <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> a
              bot should be just fine with that mimicry, leveraging the
              word <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              "accurate", of course. I mean, isn't that a sci-fi plot?
              Your bot <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              responds to things so that you don't have to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> A
              friend of mine recently objected that "algorithms" are
              "reductive". I <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              tried to argue that algorithms (in the modern sense of The
              Algorithm) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> can
              be either reductive or expansive (e.g. combinatorial
              explosion). But <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> she
              was having none of it. I think her position boiled down to
              the idea <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> that
              humans are complex, multi-faceted, deep creatures. And
              taking 1 or <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> few
              measurements and then claiming that represents them in
              some space <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              reduces the whole human to a low-dim vector.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> So,
              for her, I can imagine even if she were cloned and her
              clone acted <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              exactly like her, she would never accept that clone's
              behavior, words, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> or
              even existence as actually *being* her. There's some sense
              of agency <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> or
              an inner world, or whatever, that accuracy becomes moot.
              It's the <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              qualia that matter, the subjective sense of free will ...
              metaphysical <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              nonsense.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> A
              bot that acts indistinguishably from how you act *is* you.
              I guess I'm <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              dangerously close to claiming that GPT-4 and Bard actually
              are <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
              sentient/conscious. *8^O<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> On
              5/16/23 11:50, Marcus Daniels wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              I don’t really get it.  Trump can go on a TV town hall and
              lie, and <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              those folks just lap it up.   Sue a company for learning
              some fancy <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              patterns?  Really?  If someone made a generative model of,
              say, Glen’s <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              visual appearance and vocal mannerisms and gave him a
              shtick that didn’t <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              match up with his past remarks, I think I’d notice it
              right away.    If <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              a GPT-X could fake Eric Smith, I can safely take the blue
              pill.    Some <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              of our transactions will probably require more
              cryptographic signing.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> 
                Fine, they probably should have already.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              *From:* Friam <<a
                href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
              *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2023 11:33 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              *To:* <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              Jochen -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              Very interesting framing...  as a followup I took the
              converse <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              (inverse?) question To GPT4..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              /If we consider an LLM (Large Language Model) as the
              Sancho Panza to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              the Don Quixote of its human users, we can explore a
              couple of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              potential aspects:/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>     
              1. /Grounding and Practicality: Sancho Panza is known for
              his<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              grounded perspective and practicality, which complements
              Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              Quixote's idealism. Similarly, an LLM can provide factual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              information, context, and practical insights to guide and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              support human users in their interactions. It can offer a
              wealth<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              of knowledge and help bridge gaps in understanding,
              serving as a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              pragmatic companion./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>     
              2. /Balancing Imagination and Realism: Don Quixote
              embodies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              imagination and creative thinking, while Sancho Panza
              offers a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              more realistic viewpoint. Similarly, an LLM can enhance
              human<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              creativity by generating imaginative ideas and expanding<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              possibilities. At the same time, it can bring rationality
              and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              critical thinking, ensuring that the generated content
              aligns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              with facts and reason./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>     
              3. /Providing Different Perspectives: Sancho Panza often
              offers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              alternative viewpoints and challenges Don Quixote's
              romanticized<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              notions. Similarly, an LLM can present diverse
              perspectives,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              consider different angles, and engage in nuanced
              discussions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              with human users. It can help users explore varying
              opinions and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              broaden their understanding of complex topics./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>     
              4. /Ethical Guidance: Sancho Panza acts as a moral
              compass,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              advising Don Quixote on the right course of action. In a
              similar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              vein, an LLM can provide ethical guidance by highlighting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              potential biases, promoting inclusivity, and encouraging<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              responsible use of language and information. It can
              contribute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>        
              to creating a more informed and ethical digital
              environment./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              /However, it's important to note that an LLM, as a machine
              learning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              model, lacks human experiences, emotions, and deeper
              understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              While it can offer valuable assistance, it may not fully
              grasp the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              complexities of human interactions or possess the wisdom
              and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              empathetic qualities of a human companion like Sancho
              Panza.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              Therefore, while an LLM can serve as a useful tool, it
              should be<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              complemented by human judgment and critical thinking to
              navigate the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              nuances of real-life situations./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              I am a couple of hours behind on the live feed Senate
              hearing on AI <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              <<a
href="https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/oversight-of-ai-rules-for-artificial-intelligence"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/oversight-of-ai-rules-for-artificial-intelligence</a>>
              listening in fits and starts between other things:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> 
              1. I was definitely impressed with Altman (OpenAI),
              Montgomery (IBM)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              and Marcus' (NYU) thoughtful and extrapolative responses
              rather than<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              perhaps the more usual defensive/deflective/adversarial
              style that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              these hearings often have...   I don't know who chose this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              particular lineup but I thought both Montgomery and Marcus
              made a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              good complement to Altman.  If Google and Microsoft and
              ??? had been<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              there it might have reflected more "competitive" or
              "showy" answers?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> 
              2. I was impressed with the Senators (compared to my
              fairly low<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              expectations).   Even Kennedy and Hawley managed not to do
              their<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              usual grandstanding and and snide sniping.   Altman handed
              Hawley's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              question "why don't we just let people sue you?" (as a
              mode of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              regulation/oversight) back to him quite deftly (in the
              style of "ass<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              with both hands") by responding simply "I know of no
              reason people<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              CAN'T sue us today if we cause harm".  Marcus chipped in
              pretty well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              outlining how the current laws that *might* apply are not
              well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              suited for many reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> 
              3. I felt that all three witnesses walked the fine line on
              the question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              of a "moratoriam" fairly deftly, acknowledging that they
              endorse the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              spirit of not running headlong and thoughtlessly into the
              future but<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              at the same time there is no obvious practical way to
              implement and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              enforce this, but that they are all enforcing their own
              limits on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              how fast (and thoughtlessly?) they might roll out
              development to the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              public...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> 
              4. In closing Blumenthal  suggested having ChatGPT rewrite
              the lyrics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              to "Don't Stop" (thinking about tomorrow (McVie-Fleetwood
              Mac) which<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              I took to heart.  I was not impressed with it's results
              and won't<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              burden the list with it.  I'm guessing Blumenthal did
              *not* actually<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              do that but like Quixote, simply saw the windmill and
              thought it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              might be a giant?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
              On 5/16/23 11:30 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              I have asked Bard ( bard.google.com) today about Don
              Quixote from<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              Cervantes, and if a large language model would be similar
              to a Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              Quixote without a Sancho Panza.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              Here is what Bard replied:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              "In a way, large language models can be seen as Don
              Quixotes without<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              Sancho Panzas. They are trained on massive amounts of text
              data, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              they are able to generate text, translate languages, write
              different<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              kinds of creative content, and answer your questions in an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              informative way. However, they are not always able to
              distinguish<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              between reality and fiction, and they can sometimes make
              mistakes or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              generate text that is not accurate or helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              Sancho Panza, on the other hand, is a realist who helps
              Don Quixote<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              to stay grounded in reality. He provides Don Quixote with
              common<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              sense and practical advice, and he helps him to avoid
              making mistakes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              Large language models could benefit from having a Sancho
              Panza<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              figure to help them to stay grounded in reality and to
              avoid making<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              mistakes. This could be done by having a human being or
              another<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>    
              large language model to review the text that the large
              language<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              model generates. This would help to ensure that the text
              is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              accurate, helpful, and appropriate"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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