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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/17/23 10:47 AM, Marcus Daniels
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are many idiosyncrasies of me that I
would just as soon not exist. The new avatar could be the
aspirational me!</p>
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<p>It seems like it might be good if we are going post-human to
polyp off aspirational digital "clones" which can then try to
survive in a digital clone-ecosystem... maybe this could be a way
humanity could make a large (sociocultural) evolutionary lurch
forward before we render it in our genome?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"><friam-bounces@redfish.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Prof David West<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 17, 2023 8:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My
sympathies would be with your friend—until such time as a<b><i><u>
"clone exactly like her ... behavior, words, or even
existence..."
</u></i></b>was demonstrated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Exactly"
is a big word! and I would add "completely."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Even on a
single dimension, say use of language, the standard of
exact and complete is hard to satisfy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have no
problem believing that a chat-bot could write an academic
paper or either of my books; put together, and deliver in
my voice, a lecture ; play bar-trivia at the pub; or carry
on a convincing conversation. I have no doubt that, in the
very near future, the same bot might be able to project a
video that included mannerisms and simulation of the way I
pace around a classroom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But
exactitude would require, not only, all the things I do
do, and the idiosyncrasies in the way that I do them, but
also the idiosyncrasies of my inabilities: I can never get
the crossword clues involving popular culture, for
example.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">If a
clone is built that "walks like a duck and quacks like a
duck" but does not migrate or lay eggs; is it really a
duck?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would
concede the equivalence issue of means or mechanisms
behind the observable; e.g., it does not matter if the
observed behavior results from electrons in gold wires or
electrons in dendrites. But I would at least raise the
question as to whether, in specific instances, a
'subjective' behind the behavior is or is not critical.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">For
example, and forgive the personal, you have mentioned
being in pain all of your life. Would it be necessary for
a bot to "feel pain" as you have in order to "act exactly
like you?" Or is there an "algorithmic equivalent"
possible for the bot to utilize in order to obtain
unerring verisimilitude?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Then
there is the whole question of experience in general.
Would
<b><i><u>I</u></i></b> really be <b><i><u>me</u></i></b>,
sans the LSD trips over the years? If not, then how will
the bot "calculate" for itself, identical or at least
highly similar, experience equivalents.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Even if,
in principle, it were possible to devise algorithms and
programs that did result in behavior that mimicked Dave at
every stage of its existence, will those algorithms be
invented and programs written before the heat death of the
universe? You cannot attempt to finesse this quest by
invoking "self-learning" because then you need a training
set that is at least as extensive as the 75 year training
set that the mechanism you would have me be, has utilized
to become me. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I might
agree that, in principle,<b><i><u> "A bot that acts
indistinguishably from how you act *is* you,"
</u></i></b>I think the implication of the word
"indistinguishably" is a bar that will never be attained.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">davew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On Tue,
May 16, 2023, at 6:46 PM, glen wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
That's a great point. To be honest, anyone who is
accurately mimicked by <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> a
bot should be just fine with that mimicry, leveraging the
word <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
"accurate", of course. I mean, isn't that a sci-fi plot?
Your bot <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
responds to things so that you don't have to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> A
friend of mine recently objected that "algorithms" are
"reductive". I <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
tried to argue that algorithms (in the modern sense of The
Algorithm) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> can
be either reductive or expansive (e.g. combinatorial
explosion). But <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> she
was having none of it. I think her position boiled down to
the idea <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> that
humans are complex, multi-faceted, deep creatures. And
taking 1 or <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> few
measurements and then claiming that represents them in
some space <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
reduces the whole human to a low-dim vector.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> So,
for her, I can imagine even if she were cloned and her
clone acted <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
exactly like her, she would never accept that clone's
behavior, words, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> or
even existence as actually *being* her. There's some sense
of agency <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> or
an inner world, or whatever, that accuracy becomes moot.
It's the <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
qualia that matter, the subjective sense of free will ...
metaphysical <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
nonsense.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> A
bot that acts indistinguishably from how you act *is* you.
I guess I'm <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
dangerously close to claiming that GPT-4 and Bard actually
are <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>
sentient/conscious. *8^O<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> On
5/16/23 11:50, Marcus Daniels wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
I don’t really get it. Trump can go on a TV town hall and
lie, and <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
those folks just lap it up. Sue a company for learning
some fancy <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
patterns? Really? If someone made a generative model of,
say, Glen’s <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
visual appearance and vocal mannerisms and gave him a
shtick that didn’t <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
match up with his past remarks, I think I’d notice it
right away. If <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
a GPT-X could fake Eric Smith, I can safely take the blue
pill. Some <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
of our transactions will probably require more
cryptographic signing. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Fine, they probably should have already.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
*From:* Friam <<a
href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
*On Behalf Of *Steve Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2023 11:33 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
*To:* <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
*Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Jochen -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Very interesting framing... as a followup I took the
converse <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
(inverse?) question To GPT4..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
/If we consider an LLM (Large Language Model) as the
Sancho Panza to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
the Don Quixote of its human users, we can explore a
couple of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
potential aspects:/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
1. /Grounding and Practicality: Sancho Panza is known for
his<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
grounded perspective and practicality, which complements
Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Quixote's idealism. Similarly, an LLM can provide factual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
information, context, and practical insights to guide and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
support human users in their interactions. It can offer a
wealth<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
of knowledge and help bridge gaps in understanding,
serving as a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
pragmatic companion./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
2. /Balancing Imagination and Realism: Don Quixote
embodies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
imagination and creative thinking, while Sancho Panza
offers a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
more realistic viewpoint. Similarly, an LLM can enhance
human<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
creativity by generating imaginative ideas and expanding<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
possibilities. At the same time, it can bring rationality
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
critical thinking, ensuring that the generated content
aligns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
with facts and reason./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
3. /Providing Different Perspectives: Sancho Panza often
offers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
alternative viewpoints and challenges Don Quixote's
romanticized<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
notions. Similarly, an LLM can present diverse
perspectives,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
consider different angles, and engage in nuanced
discussions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
with human users. It can help users explore varying
opinions and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
broaden their understanding of complex topics./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
4. /Ethical Guidance: Sancho Panza acts as a moral
compass,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
advising Don Quixote on the right course of action. In a
similar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
vein, an LLM can provide ethical guidance by highlighting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
potential biases, promoting inclusivity, and encouraging<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
responsible use of language and information. It can
contribute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
to creating a more informed and ethical digital
environment./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
/However, it's important to note that an LLM, as a machine
learning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
model, lacks human experiences, emotions, and deeper
understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
While it can offer valuable assistance, it may not fully
grasp the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
complexities of human interactions or possess the wisdom
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
empathetic qualities of a human companion like Sancho
Panza.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Therefore, while an LLM can serve as a useful tool, it
should be<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
complemented by human judgment and critical thinking to
navigate the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
nuances of real-life situations./<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
I am a couple of hours behind on the live feed Senate
hearing on AI <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
<<a
href="https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/oversight-of-ai-rules-for-artificial-intelligence"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/oversight-of-ai-rules-for-artificial-intelligence</a>>
listening in fits and starts between other things:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
1. I was definitely impressed with Altman (OpenAI),
Montgomery (IBM)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
and Marcus' (NYU) thoughtful and extrapolative responses
rather than<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
perhaps the more usual defensive/deflective/adversarial
style that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
these hearings often have... I don't know who chose this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
particular lineup but I thought both Montgomery and Marcus
made a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
good complement to Altman. If Google and Microsoft and
??? had been<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
there it might have reflected more "competitive" or
"showy" answers?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
2. I was impressed with the Senators (compared to my
fairly low<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
expectations). Even Kennedy and Hawley managed not to do
their<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
usual grandstanding and and snide sniping. Altman handed
Hawley's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
question "why don't we just let people sue you?" (as a
mode of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
regulation/oversight) back to him quite deftly (in the
style of "ass<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
with both hands") by responding simply "I know of no
reason people<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
CAN'T sue us today if we cause harm". Marcus chipped in
pretty well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
outlining how the current laws that *might* apply are not
well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
suited for many reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
3. I felt that all three witnesses walked the fine line on
the question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
of a "moratoriam" fairly deftly, acknowledging that they
endorse the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
spirit of not running headlong and thoughtlessly into the
future but<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
at the same time there is no obvious practical way to
implement and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
enforce this, but that they are all enforcing their own
limits on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
how fast (and thoughtlessly?) they might roll out
development to the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
public...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
4. In closing Blumenthal suggested having ChatGPT rewrite
the lyrics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
to "Don't Stop" (thinking about tomorrow (McVie-Fleetwood
Mac) which<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
I took to heart. I was not impressed with it's results
and won't<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
burden the list with it. I'm guessing Blumenthal did
*not* actually<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
do that but like Quixote, simply saw the windmill and
thought it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
might be a giant?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
On 5/16/23 11:30 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
I have asked Bard ( bard.google.com) today about Don
Quixote from<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Cervantes, and if a large language model would be similar
to a Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Quixote without a Sancho Panza.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Here is what Bard replied:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
"In a way, large language models can be seen as Don
Quixotes without<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Sancho Panzas. They are trained on massive amounts of text
data, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
they are able to generate text, translate languages, write
different<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
kinds of creative content, and answer your questions in an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
informative way. However, they are not always able to
distinguish<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
between reality and fiction, and they can sometimes make
mistakes or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
generate text that is not accurate or helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Sancho Panza, on the other hand, is a realist who helps
Don Quixote<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
to stay grounded in reality. He provides Don Quixote with
common<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
sense and practical advice, and he helps him to avoid
making mistakes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
Large language models could benefit from having a Sancho
Panza<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
figure to help them to stay grounded in reality and to
avoid making<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
mistakes. This could be done by having a human being or
another<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
large language model to review the text that the large
language<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
model generates. This would help to ensure that the text
is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>
accurate, helpful, and appropriate"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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