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I believe that Zoox, Cruise, Waymo, and Tesla all use these techniques.  
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<blockquote type="cite">On May 29, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Russ Abbott <russ.abbott@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
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I saw that Rodney Brooks video. He claimed that transformer-based software has no semantic content. I think that's an exaggeration. The semantic content is defined by the token embeddings. So many of the explanations of token embeddings overcomplicate the basic
 idea. Look up <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=word-to-vec+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwju7IP4i5v_AhUEK0QIHbXrDycQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=word-to-vec+&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIECCMQJzIECAAQHjIECAAQHlD0EVj0EWDpGWgAcAB4AIABWogBrwGSAQEymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=S-Z0ZK6bDITWkPIPtde_uAI&bih=956&biw=1781&cs=0&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1008US1008#imgrc=aSLVbcgBsmbHKM">
wordToVec</a> and read some of the articles. Word-to-Vec was around before transformers. But transformers are based on that idea. (One of the keys to transformers is that the embedding space, including the features themselves, is generated as part of the training.)
 The embedding of all tokens in the GPT embedding space is the semantics. It's amazing the extent to which that idea can be pushed and the results LLMs produce!</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 10:13 AM Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Yes, Rodney Brooks said something similar. He said "GPTs have no understanding of the words they use, no way to connect those words, those symbols, to the real world. A robot needs to be connected to the real world and its commands need to be
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<div dir="auto">One could argue that this form of connectedness and embeddedness leads eventually to self-awareness. First physical embeddedness, then social embeddedness and finally self-awareness</div>
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1. Physical Embeddedness:<br>
Agents who are embedded in a physical world are aware of the world and move in it. To be embedded they need to be embodied. Embeddedness leads to a grounding and a unique point of view<br>
<a href="https://iep.utm.edu/husspemb/" target="_blank">https://iep.utm.edu/husspemb/</a><br>
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2. Social Embeddedness:<br>
Agents who are embedded in a world of social actors are aware of other agents in the world and interact with them<br>
<a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262518581/the-new-science-of-the-mind/" target="_blank">https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262518581/the-new-science-of-the-mind/</a><br>
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3. Self-Awareness:<br>
Agents who are embedded in two worlds, the physical world and the world of language become aware that they are actors in a world of social actors by creating a link between the embodiment in the physical world (the body) and the embodiment in the world of language
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<div>From: Russ Abbott <<a href="mailto:russ.abbott@gmail.com" target="_blank">russ.abbott@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Date: 5/29/23 7:08 AM (GMT+01:00) </div>
<div>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>>
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<div>Subject: [FRIAM] A distinguishing feature of living entities </div>
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While watching my two little dogs run around our house, it struck me that a feature that distinguishes living from non-living entities is the apparent effortlessness with which living ones navigate the world. Imagine how difficult it would be to build a robot
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When I asked ChatGPT whether anyone has built a robotic cockroach, it came up with these examples. (I haven't checked to see whether these are real projects.)</div>
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I became amazed at how well-connected living entities are to their environments. They quickly and easily extract and use information from their environment that is important to their survival. </div>
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Was it Rodney Brooks who said that we should build that sort of connectedness before worrying about building intelligence into our robots? Today that struck me as an important insight.</div>
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