<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Yes, the Greek shipwreck was horrific but the Titan(ic) story sadly got much more media attention.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">One aspect is the rich/poor divide: the Titan submersible contained 5 very rich passengers, while the ship from Africa was full of poor people looking for a better life. African migrants are for Europe what Mexican migrants are for the USA. People are afraid that there will be too many which take away their jobs and their appartments. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Another aspect is that the Titan story had for the last days the possibility of a happy ending that people long to hear. Unfortunately the latest news about a debris field near the Titanic has destoyed the hope for a happy ending too.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: glen <gepropella@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 6/22/23 6:57 PM (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: friam@redfish.com </div><div>Subject: [FRIAM] mind candy </div><div><br></div></div>The Greek shipwreck was a horrific tragedy. Yet it didn’t get the attention of the Titanic story<br>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/22/the-greek-shipwreck-was-a-horrific-tragedy-yet-it-didnt-get-the-attention-of-the-titanic-story<br><br>By analogy with eye candy, where the Eloi get all the attention and the Morlocks spin the world, it's difficult to believe that any of us (well, most of us) actually value human life. When dorks like Yudkowsky fret over AI as an existential threat (and the only such intelligences we can see are birthed by immense wealth), are they fretting over, say, the 100 children below deck in the migrant ship? Is that what they're fretting over? I don't think so. It reminds me of the idea of elite overproduction <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction>. Yudkowsky is an elite, but of a different stripe than, say, Samuel Alito (rubbing shoulders with billionaires). When an elite like Musk calls for a "pause" and an elite like Microsoft barrels on like a bull in a china shop ... and most of what we see in The Media (stupid English) is those fighting elephants, where do the 100 children rank? Are we merely biomass, providing the scaffolding to a higher order life form, much like some of us think fungus and insects are scaffolding for us? If so, then who cares about a few dead bodies at the bottom of the ocean at all, whether millionaires or the forgettable poor?<br><br>-- <br>ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ<br>-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam<br>to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com<br>FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/<br>archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/<br> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/<br></body></html>