<div dir="ltr">More I look at it... Looks like there were a lot of shortcuts in the wall. If they didn't make a clean-outable P trap, hmm, maybe they shortchanged the vent.<div>I also notice the HVAC duct vent on the floor, suggesting somebody used the between-studs area as a way to move heat/cool around without ducting , which is consistent with the dust and webs there. Suggest you take out some more sheetrock above the T joint and see if there is one of those faux-drain vent things in the wall, in which case the drain pipe maybe doesn't go all the way to the roof and you don't need a ladder yet. The faux-drain vent thing might have gotten gummed up with all the dust and crap from the faux heating duct. </div><div><br></div><div>In any case, the inadequate drain vent issue matches the problem as well as my experience in my own place, and fixing that (sucks to do in the winter) improved things dramatically.</div><div><br></div><div>C</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 3:21 PM cody dooderson <<a href="mailto:d00d3rs0n@gmail.com">d00d3rs0n@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I started a spreadsheet to keep track of all of these suggestions. Feel free to edit as you see fit.<br><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e4wnqGcQiBh_-hZ2VF0jC892cqdoJOV97weprzwpgcg/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e4wnqGcQiBh_-hZ2VF0jC892cqdoJOV97weprzwpgcg/edit?usp=sharing</a><div><div><br><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">_ Cody Smith _<div><a href="mailto:cody@simtable.com" target="_blank">cody@simtable.com</a></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 2:06 PM Carl Tollander <<a href="mailto:carl@plektyx.com" target="_blank">carl@plektyx.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Go up on roof, make sure drain vent is not clogged by debris. Improper or badly installed drain venting slows things down a lot.<div><br></div><div>Carl</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:42 AM Prof David West <<a href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm" target="_blank">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">When the washer drains, water flows for a bit, then you hear the pipe filling up and water comes out the top. Pause the flow, water drains quickly, start and pipe fills again. Cycle till rate of flow subsides. <br>
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Question: can turbulence occur at the u-trap and cause a temporary blockage? If yes, does the turbulence occur because of the distance from entry to the u-trap?<br>
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Will ask plumber — but prior discussions of turbulence on the list made me think it might pose an interesting problem..<br>
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