<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I was thinking more like judges and prosecutors than about celebrities.<div><br></div><div>They seem to be the ones who look back at the snarling dog and say I deal with mobsters every day. Get out of my way; I have a job to do.</div><div><br></div><div>E</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 27, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Steve Smith <sasmyth@swcp.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Rambling Ode to (mostly) Trucks:<br></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">On 12/27/23 10:59 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:MN0PR11MB59857C48705DF37F94BD3E77C59FA@MN0PR11MB5985.namprd11.prod.outlook.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">What I saw on my trip were hundreds of late model giant pickup trucks jacked way up off the ground driving around 90mph with the usual markings.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">How do the proles afford them? Not yet post-scarcity. Hmm.</span></div></div></blockquote><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Re: LMGPTJOtG - Last time I drove the corridor you describe I remember having my doors blown off by one of those "cowboy cadillacs" with bumper stickers reading<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><u>Trump 2016</u></i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u><i>If it ain't King James, it ain't Bible</i></u>. I'm sure there is a Trump 2020 and 2024 sticker on there (or overlayed) now. </p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Re: Bible tangent - I recently bought a used Bible off the interwebs for reasons I'm sure you don't want me to elaborate here, and learned a bit too much about the myriad *modern* translations/editions and versions, with KJ influencing them all significantly. I chose a 1951 version the Catholic Church produced to try to align with Protestant versions without letting go of any of their own principles/tenants. A sort of peace offering? I was raised agnostic-unto athiest but surrounded by Protestants and Impinged with Catholics until I started choosing escaped/reformed/recovering Catholics as partners as an adult.<br></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Re: Can't wait for the machines to take over- When we invented gods in our own image we did a bad job, I'm not sure we are doing any better with the AI? Please gods, not in Elon's image! But hope springs infernal.</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Re: REC Banks/Culture - glad to hear someone else is as voracious as I am with Science and Fiction... my library still holds a dozen or so books from REC's library when he left SFE (10 years ago?)... but I don't remember any SciFi, just SciFact? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Re: Eric's cryptic comment about "last keeper of Democracy being a Black Woman - " Michele, Oprah, and Kamala seem like the likely candidates in exponentially decreasing order of likelihood? I see an adjacent-possible path fitting Biden's and the DNC's handling of 2024 strategy? When does Biden step down/out? After Trump implodes entirely? After election? Some acute aging-related event? If Haley squeeks the primary away from DJT? While she might qualify as "woman of color", not Black and not particularly a "keeper of Democracy" unless of course, we measure such by small handfulls of shred? I'd want Kamala to beat her, but not sure where all those Trumpster-Dumpsters would come down? Some probably couldn't vote for *any* woman?<br></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Re: Big Trucks and post Scarcity - On our last road trip, Mary's favorite cousin (our age) arrived (Northern NE) to meet us for dinner one of those cowboy cadillacs... looked like it had been in a bar-fight. Golfball and bigger hail the week before he said. </p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">He had just come from the insurance adjuster who offered him a $50k check for the repairs (spangled windshield, ball-peened hood/roof, and some minor pings in every panel and toolbox)... which he was upset about since replacement was $70k. Not a single functional issue outside of windshield visibility. I'd have had a $500 windshield put in, paid off the loan (which I would never have taken out, myself) and worn the beating like a sabre scar, but he was dead set on getting it repaired whilst grumbling at the downtime when he'd have to drive one of the (equally big/expensive) company trucks (he owns a tree trimming service, so it would host a bucket and chipper, slows him down on the straightaways?). </p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I didn't check for bumper stickers but am pretty sure they would say Trump/Pence with Pence struck through with a Sharpie (maybe a noose drawn on?). He might have missed the small Biden/Harris one on the back of Mary's ($5k new to us) 15 year old Prius (215k miles and no hail damage)... I just smiled when he railed about the cost of fuel (a lot of "I did that" Biden stickers on the gas pumps there) thinking about the 50mpg I was getting unless I drafted behind a truck like his (then 60)... </p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Mary is excellent about not talking politics with family... most of her generation of relatives (and all of their survining parents) are died-in-wool conservative and about half of the next generation are too. One tween grand-niece sported a "I'll be Baaack Trump-Terminator" T-shirt when we met up with them... I'm pretty sure it was for our benefit. I wanted to send her a Dark-Brandon one to round out the closet, but Mary thought she might/not recognize the snark in it and either way it would be futile.<br></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Love of Pickup Trucks - I grew up with pickup-trucks as the best value-versatility vehicle, usually the first/only for any family with 3 little kids squeezed between mom and pop on the wide bench seat and grandparents and older kids in the back in the slipstream of the cab sharing a blanket. Camper shells/toppers didn't come into vogue until a few years later, that made the back a little more hospitable. None came with power steering, brakes, windows, AC, automatic transmissions that I knew of, and an (AM) radio was a luxury... but no preset stations and a single speaker under holes drilled in the (metal) dashboard. </p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">None of my own half-dozen pickup trucks have ever been "luxury" by contemporary standards but as time progressed, all those power/automatic features became *standard*, hard to avoid and the MSRP's went up and past that of any compact and many sedans. Increasingly newer (none of mine were newish much less new) and more capable (starting with AM/FM stereo and 4x4 and extended (not double) cabs) with my latest being a 2002 diesel 4x4 (250k miles) once converted to veggie oil. fryer oil became scarce for a while but then at some point all the old hippies hoarding the stuff started trying to give it away by the 55 gallon drum a few years ago. If they had sat in the sunlight too long they probably had algae growth. Not good for injectors. It is hard to keep the pumps, injectors, seals in good shape with veggie instead of dino oil with/without alge... even if Rudolf Diesel (1858) did design the first ones to run on peanut oil. I sure wish I'd not help Reagan oust Jimmy in 1980!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I'm not sure when pickups became self-indulgent luxury toys. I love/owned motorcycles too. Same/Same. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">My 49 2.5 ton farm dump truck (mostly lawn ornament now but often used a decade ago (by me) for woodchips, manure, firewood) is on it's way to becoming (fingers crossed) Double Axle II, a second in the fleet of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.axleart.com%2f&c=E,1,FS7F1Uu_GNNCY8AuxjLHKCb8jyhRJTVcG8P5-8sd5bsdYZpcgBW6Nw28H-9qocZgDA6z3eGAgv7k-RS0r6t5iantmmN5kQbSvmApyj0vfpLYW6WjJaQowg,,&typo=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">Axle Art</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>projects.</p><p align="center" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><img moz-do-not-send="true" src="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fstatic.wixstatic.com%2fmedia%2f4b2119_061fc38d74e84eca8bfb5ae7c3b57217~mv2.jpg%2fv1%2ffill%2fw_600%2ch_369%2cal_c%2cq_80%2cusm_0.66_1.00_0.01%2cenc_auto%2fStromberg%2520for%2520web.jpg&c=E,1,C5MJ5-vmPEHtdYFoDHWsunHgScRUwz0vTLHcERgFeA04RbI3yQyQ2dpcsNcDg6SMTMR-R4TVYCg9iH8UUkt5anNhxjWa7aoq_iWI1-vG88vo&typo=1" alt="" width="600" height="369"></p><p align="center" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Current Treatment of Axle Contemporary Van</p><p align="center" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span id="cid:part1.vIJjzNLO.C0xsG49U@swcp.com"><DALL·E 2023-11-18 19.33.38 - A modified version of the previously described scene, featuring the Ford F-6 model farm grain bed truck from the 1950s with a yellow cab and red bed. .png></span><br></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">DALL-E has a strange sense of humor about a lot of things, including which direction a dump-bed dumps!... my proposed performance art-project is called "sequestering carbon, two cords of books at a time". </p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Color scheme and body style are accurate, specific Patina and stenciling entirely made up by DALL-E... many renderings offered. The only other obvious inauthentic element is the bolt pattern on the rims... 5 giant self-centering lug nuts were the standard for this class of truck well into the 50s. </p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">These rims are known as widowmakers... for good reason, surprisingly Garcia Tire still maintains a cage with mounting equipment inside to work on them with. I'm looking for modern replacements. But they will still have a 5 bolt pattern. </p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I've been waiting for larger affordable "hub motors" to come out so I could quit tuning a 75 year old petrol burner and drop in the good sections of my 16kWh Chevy Volt battery I replaced when I bought it. Used (but still functional) solar panels are cheaper than plywood and a whole lot more water-proof. I could cover or clad the bed with those and collect enough photons for the 2-6 mile moves every week or two the art-platform concept suggests? The split-drive-shaft and two-speed rear-end with PTO setup is also a reasonable place to inline an EV-class motor for low-speed, short distances. Who knows?<span id="cid:part2.uU3FjwR1.dMfWwSlo@swcp.com"><Poetruck with color copy.jpeg></span><br></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Locals should look for this pressed into some form of transient public art installation in Santa Fe by this summer.</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">'nuff of this careening ramble,</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"> - Sieve<br></p><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:MN0PR11MB59857C48705DF37F94BD3E77C59FA@MN0PR11MB5985.namprd11.prod.outlook.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friam<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><friam-bounces@redfish.com></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Roger Critchlow<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, December 27, 2023 9:28 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><friam@redfish.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [FRIAM] The last Lighthouse Keeper in America<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 8:51<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">\u202f</span>PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">[...]<br><br>Really hoping the machines can take over soon.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">I just yesterday finished rereading all the Iain M Banks "Culture" novels in the Boston Public Library e-collection, seven between Halloween and Christmas. The "Culture" is a space-going far future civilization of organic life - humanoid and other - and of artificially sentient beings. The machine "Minds" pretty much run the infrastructure and economy while the organic beings party, study, travel, pursue dangerous hobbies, whatever. It's all post-scarcity, so everyone can pretty much have what they want.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">It sounds like the Culture "Minds" pretty much solved the dictatorship of the proletariat in the Culture's history. You raise dumb matter to sentience and let it sort everything out. The energy and matter of the tools that the proletarians used are even more prole than the proles.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">-- rec --<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div><br><fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset><pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .
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