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    <p>With integration of LLMs (and other ML) into AR and personal
      assistant tech riding around on early adopters "shoulders", I
      would expect these percieve-reason-act structures to be "in
      training" essentially learning how to emulate (and extrapolate)
      their user's/wearer's/familiar's decision processes?   </p>
    <p>It would seem that this is where Pearl and Glymour's causal
      inferencing models would be directly applicable?</p>
    <p>I read somewhere that Tesla's data  gathered from their Self
      Driving features represents a somewhat unique data-set due to
      these percieve/reason/act implications.   Does (less than full)
      self-driving car tech not represent a real-life training
      opportunity?   <br>
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    <p>An AR enhanced ML personal assistant would seem to be an equally
      obvious place to begin to bootstrap training an AI in "everyday
      activities"?<br>
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          Jochen, I know about LangChain. I'm not claiming that LLMs
          cannot be used as elements of larger computations, just that
          LLMs on their own are quite limited. I'll make that point in
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at
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            <div dir="auto">Langchain is an agent framework started by
              Harrison Chase. A Langchain agent uses LLMs to reason in a
              perceive-reason-act cycle. One could argue that Langchain
              agents are able to think, and we are even able to watch
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            <div dir="auto"><a
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            <div dir="auto"><a href="http://deeplearning.ai"
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            <div dir="auto">-J.</div>
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              <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
              <div>From: Russ Abbott <<a
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              <div>Date: 1/28/24 9:58 PM (GMT+01:00) </div>
              <div>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
                Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
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              <div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Honeymoon over! </div>
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                The abstract for the abstract had to be
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                generating text: their output is syntactically correct,
                 coherent, and plausible. They seem capable of following
                instructions and of carrying out meaningful
                conversations. LLMs achieve these results by using
                transformers to produce text based on complex patterns
                in their training data. But powerful though they are,
                transformers have nothing to do with reasoning. LLMs
                have no means to build or to reason from internal
                models; they cannot backtrack or perform exploratory
                search; they cannot perform after-the-fact analysis; and
                they cannot diagnose and correct errors.  More
                generally, LLMs cannot formulate, apply, or correct
                strategies or heuristics. In short, LLMs are not a step
                away from Artificial General Intelligence.<br>
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              <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at
                10:12 AM Steve Smith <<a
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href="https://pretalx.iacapconf.org/iacap-2024/me/submissions/N388VQ/"
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                          abstract submission to IACAP-2024</a> has
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                  <p>Russ -</p>
                  <p>I am interested in reading your abstract/paper...<u><br>
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                  <p>I signed up for an IACAP account but the link you
                    provided seems to be dead?</p>
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