<div dir="auto"><div>Back in the 70s my father, who was a nuclear engineer, said that if nuclear energy weren't pursued aggressively there would be energy riots by 2050.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 7:42 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><a href="https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/microsoft-hires-erin-henderson-to-head-nuclear-development-acceleration-for-data-centers/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/microsoft-hires-erin-henderson-to-head-nuclear-development-acceleration-for-data-centers/</a><br>
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From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of Prof David West<br>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 6:34 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity<br>
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Published a paper couple of years back — IT is not Sustainable. One point was power consumption: known server-farms at that time used more energy per year than the UK. Less than 10% came from renewable sources. <br>
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Not included were all the “secret” farms in Russia, China, etc., or centers like the NSA facility west of Salt Lake City. <br>
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Davew<br>
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On Thu, Mar 28, 2024, at 9:08 AM, glen wrote:<br>
> As we frivolously replace meatspace conversation with obsequious <br>
> chatbots, the world burns.<br>
><br>
> The industry more damaging to the environment than airlines <br>
> <a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/30/silicon-valley-data-gi" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/30/silicon-valley-data-gi</a><br>
> ants-net-zero-sustainability-risk/<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/ci" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/ci</a><br>
> vil-engineering-magazine/issues/magazine-issue/article/2024/03/enginee<br>
> rs-often-need-a-lot-of-water-to-keep-data-centers-cool<br>
><br>
> --<br>
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