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<div dir="ltr">but the "dark side" of the moon is sunlit for half
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at
11:33 AM glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com"
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Bandwidth
might be a problem. But the dark side of the moon seems like
an option ... assuming you can negotiate with the aliens that
live over there. The best thing about coral is you don't have
to negotiate for their "land". You can just take it and let
them die like the stupid little creatures they are.<br>
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<a
href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/asia/south-china-sea-philippines-coral-reef-damage-intl-hnk/index.html"
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On 3/28/24 10:17, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
> It's not really my thing, but I noticed there were
several very large exhibits at Supercomputing 23 for cooling
technology. Even immersive cooling solutions. I think that
could be improved a lot. Without superconducting processors,
I don't see how energy use can be dramatically reduced
though. For that there will just need to be new generation.
Could put these near large off short windfarms..<br>
> <br>
> <a
href="https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/china-deploys-1400-ton-commercial-underwater-data-center/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/china-deploys-1400-ton-commercial-underwater-data-center/</a><br>
> <br>
> I suppose there are some that would say gentrification is
genocide -- a slow coerced displacement.<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Friam <<a
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On Behalf Of glen<br>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 9:49 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity<br>
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> Maybe. But way before that happens, it will(has) force(d)
the disaffected (people, animals, plants) of any such region
to die, move, or adapt.<br>
> <br>
> In the Gaza kerfuffle, I've heard some describe coerced
displacement as "genocide". I guess the more reasonble term is
ethnic cleansing. The settlers seem mostly fine with their
ethnic cleansing agenda. But, by analogy, how would we
describe the coercive adaptation put upon a region by a
massive water-sucking data center? Biology cleansing? If there
really were an AI, would they worry about the forced
displacement caused by their silicon incubators? ... or maybe
"incubator" isn't a good word. How about "galls": <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall</a>
Yeah, that might be a good analogy. The machines are
parasitic. They hijack the iDNA (information generators) of
the local biology to form galls within which they grow and
thrive.<br>
> <br>
> On 3/28/24 07:51, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
>> It will force innovation on energy-efficient
microarchitecture (e.g. Groq) and on renewable power
generation near data centers.<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Friam <<a
href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
On Behalf Of glen<br>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:09 AM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
>> Subject: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity<br>
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>><br>
>> As we frivolously replace meatspace conversation with
obsequious chatbots, the world burns.<br>
>><br>
>> The industry more damaging to the environment than
airlines <a
href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/30/silicon-valley-data-giants-net-zero-sustainability-risk/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/30/silicon-valley-data-giants-net-zero-sustainability-risk/</a><br>
>><br>
>> <a
href="https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/civil-engineering-magazine/issues/magazine-issue/article/2024/03/engineers-often-need-a-lot-of-water-to-keep-data-centers-cool"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/civil-engineering-magazine/issues/magazine-issue/article/2024/03/engineers-often-need-a-lot-of-water-to-keep-data-centers-cool</a><br>
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