<div dir="ltr">After briefly looking at Baba and discovering that Michael Levin, whose work I admire, holds it in high regard, I think it's worth evaluating. One of my daughters lives on another continent with her family, and I am fortunate to have a weekly remote one-hour session teaching Python to my nine-year-old grandson. We both enjoy it immensely. These young ones seem so much smarter than we (or rather I) used to be. In any case, I believe it would be worthwhile for me to explore Baba and eventually introduce it to my grandson when he's ready to advance from coding. Perhaps, with all the AI tools available, there isn't much future in merely coding, and games like Baba might help unlock new opportunities for them. I'm not sure, but it's worth considering.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 at 23:53, Roger Critchlow <<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org">rec@elf.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">My older daughter knows Baba Is You, she says it's very interesting in a tear down the boxes sort of way.<div><br></div><div>-- rec --</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 1:44 PM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Like. I have grandkids ranging in age from 3 to 27. I wonder if I'll have great grandkids. My adult grandsons' girlfriends think babies are "disgusting". I hope many others in their generation feel differently.</p>
<div>---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, 12:59 PM steve smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" target="_blank">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>This is all so apropos of my quest to provide "elder advice" to
my children (40-somethings), nieces/nephews (30-somethings), and
grandchildren (5, 12)... I know (most) everything I
experienced/learned a half-century ago is only marginally relevant
as most of what my parents/grandparents tried to pack me up were
both sage and ill-advised at the same time... <br>
</p>
<p>I'll be passing this down a generation or two...</p>
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<div>On 6/16/24 9:35 AM, Roger Critchlow
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Interesting post on hackernews today. Michael
Levin is arguing that a video puzzle game, Baba Is You (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Is_You" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Is_You</a>
or <a href="https://hempuli.com/baba/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://hempuli.com/baba/</a>),
is good preparation for working in his lab.
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span>What’s
cool about this puzzle game (besides the fact that it’s
challenging and fun) is that it gets you to break a number
of mental categories and think more continuously and fluidly
about topics relevant to the understanding of life and mind.
Among other things, it dissolves barriers between data and
algorithm, between a cognitive system and its contents, and
gets you to think differently. People often ask me what kind
of preparation they need to join our lab; I think I’ll put
this game on that list. It’s a good introduction to the
relevant mental flexibility, especially given our </span><a href="https://drmichaellevin.org/research/newdirections.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">latest directions</a><span>.
Hofstadter’s incredible, classic </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">GEB</a><span> is
another such.</span></blockquote>
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