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    <p>I'm loving the fact of the recent news around what might be the
      first computer game?   <br>
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      <p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/06/retired-engineer-discovers-55-year-old-bug-in-lunar-lander-computer-game-code/"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/06/retired-engineer-discovers-55-year-old-bug-in-lunar-lander-computer-game-code/</a></p>
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    <p>I don't know how the backwater HS I went to (Douglas AZ) in the
      early 70s acquired a PDP-8 but the (Chemistry) teacher who ran the
      Basic programming labs used the original Teletype version of 
      Lunar Lander as an example of the potential.   I was building
      Popular Electronics prescribed video-signal injectors to add
      Chiron text to a standard (NTSC) video signal and working at an AM
      radio station which had an entirely relay/mechanical based
      "programmable" automation system which allowed me to arrange the
      "playlists" to be anywhere from entirely predictable to
      pseudo-random (scrambled by the beat frequency between various
      song lengths and the patchboard logic which decided with of 4
      carousels of infinite loop 4-track tapes to play next.   In
      principle I could set up an entire hour of auto-play of music,
      PSAs and commercials.  This also felt like a "computer game" in
      it's own way.</p>
    <p>One of my first assignments in my first "computer graphics" class
      was to re-implement Lunar Lander on a Tektronix storage-screen
      (green-screen etch-a-sketch) (circa 1978)...   vector refresh
      video games were already common (asteroid and battlezone and a few
      others?)...   <br>
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    <p>I find it very difficult to separate (predictive) simulation from
      video games excepting the details of interface and seriousness of
      simulation subject.</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/17/24 9:09 AM, Marcus Daniels
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’ve never
            been able to understand people that play or write video
            games.    There’s one game some colleagues were playing that
            simulated navigating academia and becoming a PI.   People
            like nursing their PTSD?   Ick.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
              Friam <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"><friam-bounces@redfish.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger
              Critchlow<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 16, 2024 2:53 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
              Group <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"><friam@redfish.com></a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] new directions at the michael
              levin lab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">My older daughter knows Baba Is You, she
            says it's very interesting in a tear down the boxes sort of
            way.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">-- rec --<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 1:44<span
                style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM
              Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p>Like.  I have grandkids ranging in age from 3 to 27.  I
              wonder if I'll have great grandkids.  My adult grandsons'
              girlfriends think babies are "disgusting".  I hope many
              others in their generation feel differently.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">---<br>
                Frank C. Wimberly<br>
                140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>
                Santa Fe, NM 87505<br>
                <br>
                505 670-9918<br>
                Santa Fe, NM<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, 12:59<span
                    style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM
                  steve smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p>This is all so apropos of my quest to provide
                    "elder advice" to my children (40-somethings),
                    nieces/nephews (30-somethings), and grandchildren
                    (5, 12)... I know (most) everything I
                    experienced/learned a half-century ago is only
                    marginally relevant as most of what my
                    parents/grandparents tried to pack me up were both
                    sage and ill-advised at the same time...  <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>I'll be passing this down a generation or two...<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p><o:p> </o:p></p>
                  <p><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/16/24 9:35 AM, Roger
                      Critchlow wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Interesting post on
                        hackernews today.  Michael Levin is arguing that
                        a video puzzle game, Baba Is You (<a
                          href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Is_You"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Is_You</a>
                        or <a href="https://hempuli.com/baba/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://hempuli.com/baba/</a>),
                        is good preparation for working in his lab. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">What’s cool about this
                          puzzle game (besides the fact that it’s
                          challenging and fun) is that it gets you to
                          break a number of mental categories and think
                          more continuously and fluidly about topics
                          relevant to the understanding of life and
                          mind. Among other things, it dissolves
                          barriers between data and algorithm, between a
                          cognitive system and its contents, and gets
                          you to think differently. People often ask me
                          what kind of preparation they need to join our
                          lab; I think I’ll put this game on that list.
                          It’s a good introduction to the relevant
                          mental flexibility, especially given our <a
                            href="https://drmichaellevin.org/research/newdirections.html"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">latest
                            directions</a>. Hofstadter’s incredible,
                          classic <a
                            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">GEB</a> is
                          another such.<o:p></o:p></p>
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