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<p>without Owen here to keep us on track with thread hygiene I'll
self-report... I realize I am often guilty of thread-bending if
not outright thread-jacking... what is the difference?
Haboob/Derecho, Jack/Bend? Inquiring minds wanna know...<br>
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<p>following up on the *weather* aspect of this thread, my short
acute windstorm experience yielded about 6 power glitches that
lasted less than 5 seconds each. I'm guessing the wind severity
direction was enough to actually cause some nearby overhead high
voltage wires to come close enough to touch/arc? I know dense
smoke can yield (plasma formation) arcing? The system apparently
recovered very quickly which is unusual in our poorly maintained
COOP. The Cerro Grande fire was triggered by a (windfall?)
downed powerline as I remember it.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/20/24 9:21 AM, steve smith wrote:<br>
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<p>does the NWS/etc even have an entry in their warning system for
"haboob"? <br>
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<p>I'm not that clear on the difference from RECs "derecho"...
GPTs differentiation wasn't particularly helpful in this case.
Wikipedia's entries were a little more helpful with a suggestion
that the derecho is driven before a storm front while a haboob,
also associated is more of a down and outflow of cold air
flowing away from the front. Wikipedia suggests that NM does
experience haboobs. I've been in a few conditions on
reflection might have been such where the dust-storm front not
only preceded the storm front but in fact the storm front itself
never arrived?</p>
<p>At my location, (Otowi bridge crossing the Rio Grande just at
the northern pinch-point between Buckman Mesa and the foothill
mesas of the Jemez outflow) We had a severe half-hour of wind,
rain and (small) hail.... only unique in it's acute intensity
and brevity... we do often get a certain type of weather
concentration as the topography 9both local and regional)
funnels something right over us. <br>
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<p>FWIW, since Guerin turned me on to flight-tracker, I've been
able to add evidence to my understanding that Otowi Bridge
itself is a VFR waypoint so a lot of smaller planes may well fly
at least within sight of the landmark so they can re-vector
toward their next waypoint/destination. So the same location
seems to "focus" civilian air traffic as well. The rio grande
also seems to be a corridor for military/police helicopters...
there seem to be a "pair" who meet roughly over my house, one
northbound, the other southbound. I'm guessing a Military
training program out of ABQ possibly coupled with a
ATF/State-Police drug-surveillance related activity. <br>
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<p>I was looking because I wanted to see if Musk's LANL visit
included one of his private jets in/out of LAM airport. I
didn't confirm. I suppose if it were too easy, his jet would
have gotten the same orange paint as StoneHenge and Taylor Swift
recently? <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/20/24 6:18 AM, Roger Critchlow
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<div dir="ltr">We had a couple of power glitches, a high wind
warning, and a severe storm warning all between 6 and 7 pm.
The sky went apocalyptic for a while. The clouds had been
massing east of the Organs earlier. No haboob warning, but
the high wind warning was pushed to SMS and included the usual
cautions about how to drive when you can't see anything in the
dust. The derecho in the satellite picture is all west of us,
you can see the lights of Las Cruces and El Paso at one point
in the video.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at
11:05 PM Stephen Guerin <<a
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<div dir="ltr">NIck,<br>
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Check out this Haboob moving across southern NM / northern
Mexico<br>
satellite animation: <a
href="https://guerin.acequia.io/incidents/HaboobAndSouthForkFire_20240619_2.mp4"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://guerin.acequia.io/incidents/HaboobAndSouthForkFire_20240619_2.mp4</a><br>
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Roger, did you experience it?<br>
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<div>This while Ruidoso experiences Post Fire Debris Flow
flooding and loss of 2,400 structures</div>
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