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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/16/24 4:29 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:<br>
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consciousness and language enable us to leave the bubble of
nowness in which animals live <br>
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<p>I like this, reminded that the bubble of nowness and hereness
(and thusness of our umwelt?), is transcended and transferable via
language. <br>
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<p>I think many of us conflate the ability to transfer or share or
even worse abstract our here/now/thus umwelt bubble as
"consciousness"? </p>
<p>Thanks for the Bach descendency anecdote... adds "color" to your
own here/now/thus serialized in your post!<br>
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