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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/1/24 3:13 PM, Frank Wimberly
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<div>When I was a little boy in rural NM we lit the house at
night with what my grandfather called coal oil (kerosene)
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<p>And I believe there is a Russian MiG stationed at SFe Airport
which will run on Kerosene (among a range of similar fuels)...
I've seen it climb out fast "rolling coal" like a trump supporter
driving through a BLM rally.</p>
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Frank C. Wimberly<br>
140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>
Santa Fe, NM 87505<br>
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505 670-9918<br>
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On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:17 AM steve smith <<a
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fascinating... of course SFe (and any city of the "town
gas" era) would <br>
have such a thing! </blockquote>
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This 1882 map got my initial interest up - you can see
The Santa Fe Gasworks gasometer as item 29 on the north
side of town (left side of map)<br>
<img src="cid:part1.jCNUJFsE.i53aE0fe@swcp.com"
alt="image.png" class="" width="562" height="368"><br>
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check out full-size map here: <a
href="https://guerin.acequia.io/SantaFeHistory/Santa-FE-NM-1882-SM.webp"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://guerin.acequia.io/SantaFeHistory/Santa-FE-NM-1882-SM.webp</a>.
I actually order a poster size print last year.<br>
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had public lighting or was it <br>
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Looking in the Santa Fe New Mexican Archive just now,
here's a Dec 13, 1880 when the gasworks was completed
two years before the 1882 map above by Mr. Ireland
saying Santa Fe just became the first town in New Mexico
to be lighted by gas and kerosene will become as little
used as candles are now. <br>
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<img src="cid:part2.HCSorhgB.rkCztkj0@swcp.com"
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Full page from that day: <a
href="https://guerin.acequia.io/SantaFeHistory/SantaFeGasworks_1880_NewMexicanDec13.png"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://guerin.acequia.io/SantaFeHistory/SantaFeGasworks_1880_NewMexicanDec13.png</a><br>
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Wikipedia on Gasholders / Gasometers: <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_holder"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_holder</a><br>
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Nice 90- second UK enthusiast video on history and "rise
and fall" of Gasometers: <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SopJr0yHt-w"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SopJr0yHt-w</a><br>
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how people <br>
committed suicide by sticking their head in an oven...
it seems that <br>
before natural gas (town gas/syn gas produced by heating
coal/coke/etc <br>
anaerobically) was prevalent and had a lot of CO in it
which was the <br>
primary "poison" as compared to simple suffocation by
excluding O2 laden <br>
air.<br>
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In europe I saw the skeleton/scaffolding from
"gasometers" and wondered <br>
what they were... it wasn't obvious since they were
clearly not sturdy <br>
enough to hold water-pressure (no longer had their
envelopes) ...<br>
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I was just reading in Eric Dolen's Leviathan about how
France wrote a <br>
huge contract to the American Whalers (Nantucket) to
provide whale oil <br>
for Paris's not small streetlight network which
previously ran on tallow <br>
candles and vegetable oil lamps... it was at least
partly a way to <br>
clandestinely fund Americans gearing up to throw of
England (who France <br>
was at odds with at the time).<br>
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In Australia (and elsewhere) sheep/cattle ranchers
developed a <br>
two-water-tank system for generating methane gas to run
the arm... <br>
filling a big (30' diameter?) tank with manure slurry
and inverting a <br>
(28'ish) tank upside down on it created an anaerobic
chamber for the <br>
methane-producing bacteria to go wild. A hose out the
top would feed <br>
low-pressure (increase it by piling rocks on the
inverted tank?) gas to <br>
the home/outbuildings and in some cases even a tractor
coupled via a <br>
baloon filled (and floating between tank and tractor)...<br>
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On 8/1/24 9:43 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:<br>
> The meeting of projection and my historical
interest in gasometers. <br>
> Santa Fe used to have one near Ft Marcy Park.<br>
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