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<p>and we are enough more landlocked to have been using whale-oil?
Tallow (rendered land-mammal fat) isn't quite as "pure"? I don't
know how many fresh lobster or crab get consumed in SFe every day,
but I'm betting it is in the tens? <br>
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fascinating... of course SFe (and any city of the "town gas"
era) would <br>
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This 1882 map got my initial interest up - you can see The
Santa Fe Gasworks gasometer as item 29 on the north side of
town (left side of map)<br>
<img src="cid:part1.Z7IzLo0x.B2H4Fdp7@swcp.com"
alt="image.png" class="" width="562" height="368"><br>
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check out full-size map here: <a
href="https://guerin.acequia.io/SantaFeHistory/Santa-FE-NM-1882-SM.webp"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://guerin.acequia.io/SantaFeHistory/Santa-FE-NM-1882-SM.webp</a>.
I actually order a poster size print last year.<br>
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public lighting or was it <br>
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Looking in the Santa Fe New Mexican Archive just now, here's
a Dec 13, 1880 when the gasworks was completed two years
before the 1882 map above by Mr. Ireland saying Santa Fe
just became the first town in New Mexico to be lighted
by gas and kerosene will become as little used as candles
are now. <br>
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width="755" height="687"><br>
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Full page from that day: <a
href="https://guerin.acequia.io/SantaFeHistory/SantaFeGasworks_1880_NewMexicanDec13.png"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://guerin.acequia.io/SantaFeHistory/SantaFeGasworks_1880_NewMexicanDec13.png</a><br>
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Wikipedia on Gasholders / Gasometers: <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_holder"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_holder</a><br>
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Nice 90- second UK enthusiast video on history and "rise and
fall" of Gasometers: <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SopJr0yHt-w"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SopJr0yHt-w</a><br>
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people <br>
committed suicide by sticking their head in an oven... it
seems that <br>
before natural gas (town gas/syn gas produced by heating
coal/coke/etc <br>
anaerobically) was prevalent and had a lot of CO in it which
was the <br>
primary "poison" as compared to simple suffocation by
excluding O2 laden <br>
air.<br>
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In europe I saw the skeleton/scaffolding from "gasometers"
and wondered <br>
what they were... it wasn't obvious since they were clearly
not sturdy <br>
enough to hold water-pressure (no longer had their
envelopes) ...<br>
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I was just reading in Eric Dolen's Leviathan about how
France wrote a <br>
huge contract to the American Whalers (Nantucket) to provide
whale oil <br>
for Paris's not small streetlight network which previously
ran on tallow <br>
candles and vegetable oil lamps... it was at least partly
a way to <br>
clandestinely fund Americans gearing up to throw of England
(who France <br>
was at odds with at the time).<br>
<br>
In Australia (and elsewhere) sheep/cattle ranchers
developed a <br>
two-water-tank system for generating methane gas to run the
arm... <br>
filling a big (30' diameter?) tank with manure slurry and
inverting a <br>
(28'ish) tank upside down on it created an anaerobic chamber
for the <br>
methane-producing bacteria to go wild. A hose out the top
would feed <br>
low-pressure (increase it by piling rocks on the inverted
tank?) gas to <br>
the home/outbuildings and in some cases even a tractor
coupled via a <br>
baloon filled (and floating between tank and tractor)...<br>
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On 8/1/24 9:43 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:<br>
> The meeting of projection and my historical interest in
gasometers. <br>
> Santa Fe used to have one near Ft Marcy Park.<br>
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