<div dir="auto"><div>I'm not sure my 30+ year old daughter knows the times tables. She works for the Secretary of Public Education. If you ask her about it she will say she uses calculators and spreadsheets. I think.</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 9:12 PM Russell Standish <<a href="mailto:lists@hpcoders.com.au">lists@hpcoders.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It is a test that you know your 7 or 8 times table. And the definition<br>
of a prime number (which could be given as part of the question, if<br>
not the curriculum).<br>
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I would expect most 9 or 10 years olds should know their times tables.<br>
<br>
Or am I wrong abut kids these days?<br>
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On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 12:43:54PM -0600, Tom Johnson wrote:<br>
> Ms. O'Hara:<br>
> <br>
> RE your story Sunday, "Does proficiency give full picture?"<br>
> From your lede:<br>
> "Pop quiz: What number is both a prime number and a factor or 56"?<br>
> <br>
> If I understand correctly, this is a question on an exam given to fourth<br>
> graders, 9- or 10-year-olds.<br>
> Could you please point me to some source in the city or state education<br>
> departments who can tell me what short- or long-term value this question about<br>
> mathematics -- NOT arithmetic -- has for students that age?<br>
> <br>
> We live in a state where it is a rare cashier who can do the mental<br>
> arithmetic to make change from a $20 bill. Can we first find out if fourth<br>
> graders can do that before getting into primes and factorials?<br>
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