<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Suddenly I have an idea.<div><br></div><div>Somebody should launch a bot named Svejk.</div><div><br></div><div>Eric</div><div><br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><p>I don't need the sinister "What are you doing Dave?" of HAL but I
do get very tired of it's obsequiousness, it takes work to balance
that I could put maybe more productively in seeking a more genuine
"coherence"?<br>
</p><p>I hope there is serious work going on there.</p><p><br>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 5:40 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
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<b>Subject: </b>[FRIAM] This makes me think of this
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<h4 style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:center;line-height:24.0pt" align="center"><a href="https://link.newyorker.com/click/36396552.131897/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubmV3eW9ya2VyLmNvbS9jdWx0dXJlL29wZW4tcXVlc3Rpb25zL2FyZS13ZS1saXZpbmctaW4tdGhlLWFnZS1vZi1pbmZvLWRldGVybWluaXNtP3V0bV9zb3VyY2U9bmwmdXRtX2JyYW5kPXRueSZ1dG1fbWFpbGluZz1UTllfRGFpbHlfUGFpZF8wODEzMjQmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPWF1ZC1kZXYmdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fdGVybT10bnlfZGFpbHlfZGlnZXN0JmJ4aWQ9NWJlYTE2MGQyNGMxN2M2YWRmMWQ5MGZmJmNuZGlkPTI2NjU3MDA0Jmhhc2hhPTAzYTY4YzE2MWY1ZDE2MzQ3OTQzY2YyMTk1NjkxMjkzJmhhc2hiPTgwNmExMmJmMjdhOTk5Njc5ZTEzM2Q5OGE4MDY4ZmFiM2IxOTQ3MjMmaGFzaGM9NWEwNDc2OGZhZmFiNDlhZjIxMDRlYTk4Mzc1NTExZDExYjE5MTU3ZTEyNWZiYWM1ZWY4YTdiMzM5YWY3NzFkZCZlc3JjPU9JRENfU0VMRUNUX0FDQ09VTlRfUEFHRSZtYmlkPUNSTU5ZUjA2MjQxOQ/5bea160d24c17c6adf1d90ffB4771ecbc" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times
New
Roman",serif;font-weight:normal">Are
We Living in the Age of
Info-Determinism?</span></a><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times
New
Roman",serif;font-weight:normal"><o:p></o:p></span></h4><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.25in;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt"><em><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Increasingly,
our networks seem to be steering our
history in ways we don’t like and
can’t control.</span></em><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0in;mso-line-height-alt:0pt"><a href="https://link.newyorker.com/click/36396552.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" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times
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by Josie Norton</span></a></span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#666666"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.25in;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif">“Call it
info-determinism:</span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif"> the belief
that the ways that information flows
through the world are actually a kind
of web in which we’re ensnared,”
Joshua Rothman writes. The Internet
can make it feel as though information
is endless, and access can make
everyone feel like an expert—or, at
least, an expert subreddit debater.
The sense that there is always more to
know undermines the authority of an
article or an institution, as does the
thriving trade, among those debaters,
in the disassembly of ideas. Rothman’s
column, </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif"><a href="https://link.newyorker.com/click/36396552.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" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Open
Questions</span></a></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif">, unpacks
open-ended queries each week. Today,
he considers: What is information?
Does it matter if it’s true? Are we
trapped?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:.25in;text-align:center;line-height:18.0pt;min-height:48px" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif"><a href="https://link.newyorker.com/click/36396552.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" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:white;background:black">Read
the story</span></a></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times
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