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<p>Tom -</p>
<p>I listened to this and also to the same (roughly) lecture given
at Oxford... with a different set of questions, etc. Thanks for
opening it up here...<br>
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<p>This ties in well with the (slim?) chance that AI facilitated
modeling might actually allow us (modern/tech humanity) to course
correct up to the horrific inertia in *all* the planetary
boundaries being pushed.... the sociopolitics of it all suggest
"probably not" but at least it seems to be becoming a *more
tractable" technical problem (with outrageous changes in
industry/infrastructure/first-world-lifestyles).<br>
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<p>The earth-system (geosphere, hydrosphere, cryosphere,
biosphere+noosphere) is undeniably a CAS and it fascinates me that
many (including myself up until about 20 years ago) wanted to
ignore the nonlinearities at risk and try to imagine it as the
linear system the Old Testament promised the Patriarchs it would
be for them (go forth and multiply/prosper).</p>
<p>Geoff Wests work on Scale is a great complement to Doyne's work
here.... I am sure several (if not many) here have as good or
better handle on what SFI and the holonic systems they member with
have a better handle on this than I. <br>
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<p>The JournoSphere as a CAS is also (yet) another coupled/holonic
system among systems and the current distortions (think
mainstream/right-wing/alternativeL/alternativeR/???) and
oscillations is critical (but not yet ready) to help
find/develop/transmit coherence into the inevitable phase
transitions that we are already being sucked into... <br>
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<p>Our maunderings about consciousness (mostly/only? individual
organism/individual/LLM?) are part of this, but seem to neglect
the holonic aspects of various scales of collective-ism.</p>
<p>Mumble,</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/24/24 4:07 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:<br>
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<div>If you're interested in macroeconomics, building dynamic
models, and complexity, I encourage you to spend an hour and a
half watching "Making Sense of Chaos: A Better Economics for a
Better World," a Santa Fe Institute lecture by my former
neighbor Doyne Farmer. This was delivered in Santa Fe a couple
weeks ago.<br>
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